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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I think the last one is sufficient:<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>If the CPE can not be updated to meet the requirements of this document, it must be replaced.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Because not having hardware or software support, but still accommodating the BCOP is OK, as well as if a CPE is OK, but it has been there for 8 years or 18 years, but still works for the purpose required on its location, no need to replace it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><br></span><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>Saludos,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>De: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>BCOP <bcop-bounces@lacnog.org> en nombre de Carmen Denis Polanco <carmen.denis@correo.uady.mx><br><b>Responder a: </b>This list is to discuss BCOPs in LACNOG <bcop@lacnog.org><br><b>Fecha: </b>martes, 19 de junio de 2018, 17:06<br><b>Para: </b>This list is to discuss BCOPs in LACNOG <bcop@lacnog.org><br><b>Asunto: </b>Re: [BCOP] BCOP Draft-2: open for comments<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div id=divtagdefaultwrapper><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Hi Christian, Lucimara and Jordi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>>Regarding your 2nd suggestion, I’m not sure how to address that … do you have any idea as starting point? May be is something so simple as “if the CPE can’t be updated to accommodate the requirements in this document, then it must be replaced” ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>About this, I think it can be include the end of executive summary:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The following is a simple guide to recommendations for detecting and replacing obsolete CPEs:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>If the CPE does not have hardware or software support from the manufacturer or supplier, it must be replaced.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>If the CPE has more than 5 (five) years of life, it must be replaced.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>If the CPE can not be updated to meet the requirements of this document, it must be replaced.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regards.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Carmen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:center'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><hr size=0 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><span style='color:black'>De:</span></b><span style='color:black'> BCOP <bcop-bounces@lacnog.org> en nombre de JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es><br><b>Enviado:</b> martes, 19 de junio de 2018 03:41 a. m.<br><b>Para:</b> This list is to discuss BCOPs in LACNOG<br><b>Asunto:</b> Re: [BCOP] BCOP Draft-2: open for comments</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Hi Christian,</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I know there is a generic “update” feature set in the MR section, but it is too generic.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>As said before. IPv6 must be there altogether with IPv4-in-IPv6 support. Not having that is a security risk, as well as cheating customers, because you’re providing a CPE which is no longer valid *<b>already today</b>*.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I think we need to have a strong wording on that in every BCOP we do. Otherwise message is only read if you specifically read the BCOP on CPEs, etc.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regarding your 2<sup>nd</sup> suggestion, I’m not sure how to address that … do you have any idea as starting point? May be is something so simple as “if the CPE can’t be updated to accommodate the requirements in this document, then it must be replaced” ?</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><br>Regards,</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>Jordi</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>De: </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>BCOP <bcop-bounces@lacnog.org> en nombre de Christian O'Flaherty <oflaherty@isoc.org><br><b>Responder a</b></span><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>This list is to discuss BCOPs in LACNOG <bcop@lacnog.org><br><b>Fecha: </b>lunes, 18 de junio de 2018, 21:55<br><b>Para: </b>This list is to discuss BCOPs in LACNOG <bcop@lacnog.org><br><b>Asunto: </b>Re: [BCOP] BCOP Draft-2: open for comments<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>GR-03: The CPE MUST support IPv6 following RFC7084 and transition mechanisms (draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-ipv4aas), in order to avoid the risk of a premature obsolescence.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>We have to find the appropriate wording to reference relevant documents avoiding normative language on topics outside security. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The "risk of a premature obsolescence” Is addressed in section: "</span><span style='font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#666666;background:white'>Update and Management Requirements (MR)"</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>BTW, should we include a section with recommendations for detecting and replacing obsolete CPEs?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Christian<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=xmsonormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The mention to<span class=xapple-converted-space> </span>draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-ipv4aas will be sufficient once it is an RFC, because it already has a MUST for RFC7084.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I think it makes a lot of sense.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><br>Regards,</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=xmsonormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>Jordi</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>De:<span class=xapple-converted-space> </span></span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>BCOP <<a href="mailto:bcop-bounces@lacnog.org">bcop-bounces@lacnog.org</a>> en nombre de Jan Zorz <<a href="mailto:zorz@isoc.org">zorz@isoc.org</a>><br><b>Responder a:<span class=xapple-converted-space> </span></b>This list is to discuss BCOPs in LACNOG <<a href="mailto:bcop@lacnog.org">bcop@lacnog.org</a>><br><b>Fecha:<span class=xapple-converted-space> </span></b>sábado, 16 de junio de 2018, 15:59<br><b>Para:<span class=xapple-converted-space> </span></b>"<a href="mailto:bcop@lacnog.org">bcop@lacnog.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:bcop@lacnog.org">bcop@lacnog.org</a>><br><b>Asunto:<span class=xapple-converted-space> </span></b>Re: [BCOP] BCOP Draft-2: open for comments<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>He he, should we declare absence of IPv6 support a security risk? :D<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>On a serious note - somebody could go, get this list of requirements, discover that IPv6 is not a requirement and with straight face order cpe's without IPv6 support. That's a risk that I see.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I would add just a sentence at the beginning that it is presumed for the purpose of the document that IPv6 and IPv4 protocols are supported, implemented and enabled.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Cheers, Jan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>---<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Sent from mobile phone, please excuse brevity and top-posting<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>On 16 Jun 2018, at 16:33, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <<a href="mailto:jordi.palet@consulintel.es" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>jordi.palet@consulintel.es</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'>Hi Jan,<br><br><br><br>It is a "minimum security for acquisition", not minimum features ... Those features are better documented in RFC7084 and if you want to support transition soon, hopefully in the RFC resulting from draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-ipv4aas <br><br><br><br>I think when done, we can also bring it to RIPE ?<br><br><br><br>Regards,<br><br>Jordi<br><br> <br><br> <br><br><br><br>-----Mensaje original-----<br><br>De: BCOP <<a href="mailto:bcop-bounces@lacnog.org">bcop-bounces@lacnog.org</a>> en nombre de Jan Zorz - ISOC <<a href="mailto:zorz@isoc.org">zorz@isoc.org</a>><br><br>Responder a: This list is to discuss BCOPs in LACNOG <<a href="mailto:bcop@lacnog.org">bcop@lacnog.org</a>><br><br>Fecha: sábado, 16 de junio de 2018, 15:27<br><br>Para: <<a href="mailto:bcop@lacnog.org">bcop@lacnog.org</a>><br><br>Asunto: Re: [BCOP] BCOP Draft-2: open for comments<br><br><br><br> On 16/06/2018 04:59, Lucimara Desiderá wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></pre><div><pre style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> Hello LACNOG Community<o:p></o:p></span></pre><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></blockquote><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></blockquote><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> After two rounds of discussions, we are releasing today the Draft-2 of <o:p></o:p></span></pre><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></blockquote><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> the BCOP document "Minimum security requirements for CPEs acquisition".<o:p></o:p></span></pre><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></blockquote><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></blockquote><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> Until July 22, 2018, the Draft-2 will be open for comments and <o:p></o:p></span></pre><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></blockquote><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> suggestions from the whole LACNOG community and you are all welcome to <o:p></o:p></span></pre><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></blockquote><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> provide feedback and make contributions. Contributors from M3AAWG will <o:p></o:p></span></pre><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></blockquote><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> also have the opportunity to review the document.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></blockquote><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></blockquote><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> The Draft-2 is available at the link below. In order make comments and <o:p></o:p></span></pre><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></blockquote><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> to see others' suggestions, please sign in to Google Docs and request <o:p></o:p></span></pre><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></blockquote><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> permission to edit.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></blockquote><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></blockquote><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_Sa8ZEnKXiAnh_xRc-J44VXadUGdr98MT_MZrA5sALc/edit?usp=sharing"><span style='color:purple'>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_Sa8ZEnKXiAnh_xRc-J44VXadUGdr98MT_MZrA5sALc/edit?usp=sharing</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></blockquote><pre style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'><br> <br><br> Hey,<br><br> <br><br> Thank you for sharing, this is a great document. I skimmed through while <br><br> waiting for my flight home at Helsinki airport and document looks in <br><br> good shape. It's a bit IETF-ish, but on the other hand that also gives <br><br> clarity to the language.<br><br> <br><br> One thing that I'm missing is that IPv6 is not requested as a must <br><br> anywhere. Do we presume that new CPEs have IPv6 by default anyway?<br><br> <br><br> Cheers and thnx, Jan<o:p></o:p></span></pre><div><pre style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre></div><pre style='margin-left:106.2pt;text-align:center'><span style='color:black'><hr size=0 width="71%" align=center></span></pre><pre style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:106.2pt'><span style='color:black'><br><br> BCOP mailing list<br><br> <a href="mailto:BCOP@lacnog.org">BCOP@lacnog.org</a><br><br> <a href="https://mail.lacnic.net/mailman/listinfo/bcop"><span style='color:purple'>https://mail.lacnic.net/mailman/listinfo/bcop</span></a><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br>**********************************************<br>IPv4 is over<br>Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br><a href="http://www.consulintel.es/"><span style='color:purple'>http://www.consulintel.es</span></a><br>The IPv6 Company<br><br>This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. 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