<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:lucida console, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="">Dear Leendert:</span></div><div style="background-color: transparent;" class=""><span class="" style=""></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent;" class="">I am currently working on the wording of draft on the subject. </div><div style="background-color: transparent;" class="">As soon as I have finished I will show you. </div><div style="background-color: transparent;" class="">You read and understand Spanish?</div><div style="background-color: transparent;" class="">Regards.</div><div></div><div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></div> <div style="font-family: lucida console, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class=""> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" class=""> <div dir="ltr" class=""
style=""> <hr size="1" class="" style=""> <font size="2" face="Arial" class="" style=""> <b class="" style=""><span style="font-weight:bold;" class="">From:</span></b> .CW Registry Of Curacao <registry@una.net><br class="" style=""> <b class="" style=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">To:</span></b> Christian O'Flaherty <oflaherty@isoc.org> <br class="" style=""><b class="" style=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Cc:</span></b> Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>; "ietf-lac@lacnog.org" <ietf-lac@lacnog.org>; Axel Christian Mori <axel_mori@yahoo.com> <br class="" style=""> <b class="" style=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, October 25, 2014 6:01 PM<br class="" style=""> <b class="" style=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Ietf-lac] Notacion decimal en IpV6<br class="" style=""> </font> </div> <div class="" style=""><br class=""
style=""><div id="yiv3758146376" class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><div class="" style="">Good point Chris,</div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">I think Axel's suggestion has a chance, we only need a way to uniquely define the decimal notation of the IPv6 address.</div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">Rgds, Leendert<br clear="none" class="" style=""><div class="" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><i style="" class="">.CW Registry of Curacao</i></div><div class="" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><i style="" class="">University of Curacao</i></div><div class="" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><i style="" class="">Phone: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="" style="" href="">+599-97442250/1</a></i></div><div class="" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><i style="" class="">Fax: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="" style=""
href="">+599-97442255</a></i></div><div class="" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><i style="" class="">E-mail: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lpengel@attglobal.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:lpengel@attglobal.net" class="" style="">registry@</a><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://una.net/" class="" style="">una.net</a></i></div><div class="" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><i style="" class="">URL: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.una.an/an_domreg" class="" style="">www.uoc.cw/</a>cw_registry</i></div><div class="" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;"> </div><div class="" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="" class=""><b class="" style="">SAVE PAPER - Please do not print this e-mail unless necessary</b></span></div></div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Christian O'Flaherty <<a rel="nofollow"
shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:oflaherty@isoc.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:oflaherty@isoc.org" class="" style="">oflaherty@isoc.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="">Fernando, </span><br clear="none" class="" style=""><span class="" style=""></span><br clear="none" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">Resuesta corta: Las direcciones de red no tienen porqué ser "amigables".</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">Son para que las procesen computadoras, y no humanos.</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote><span class="" style=""></span><br clear="none" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">La mitad de dispositivos en mi casa tienen IP "manual" (yo creo que eso irá
aumentando en las casas "normales").</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""><span class="" style=""></span><br clear="none" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">En aquelos casos en que se utilizan en archivos de configuracion, hacer</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">"copy&paste" suele ser lo mas adecuado. -- mas allá de que cuando esto</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">representa un problema suele ser un indicio de que deberíamos estar</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">utilizando otras cosas (aliases?) en vez de direcciones.</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote><span class="" style=""></span><br clear="none" class=""
style=""><span class="" style="">No podés decir que no escribís direcciones IP a cada rato... </span><br clear="none" class="" style=""><span class="" style=""></span><br clear="none" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">P.S.: De cualquier modo, y al margen, en mi humilde opinion la</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">probabilidad de que una propuesta como esta pueda "volar" en 6man (wg</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">relevante) es realmente proxima a "nula".</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote><span class="" style=""></span><br clear="none" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">Qué pasaría si Axel falla en convencer al IETF pero logra que la comunidad opensource comience a adoptarlo (y los usuarios en sus casas
prefieran ponerlo en decimal)... Poco tiempo después le seguirán los aparatos chinos y tendríamos una representación "de facto" antes que el IETF decida empezar a discutirlo.</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""><span class="" style=""></span><br clear="none" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">Christian</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""><span class="" style=""></span><br clear="none" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style=""></span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">Saludos,</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">Fernando</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style=""></span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""
style=""><span class="" style=""></span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style=""></span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style=""></span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">On 10/23/2014 06:24 PM, Axel Christian Mori wrote:</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">Notacion decimal en IpV6</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style=""></span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span
class="" style="">Esta es una descripcion muy breve de mi propuesta, obviamente es</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">factible una explicacion mucho mas detallada de esta idea.</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">La idea es utilizar la notacion decimal para posibilitar la</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">implementacion del IpV6 de una forma muchos mas ergonomica, ya que por</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class=""
style="">naturaleza el ser humano esta mucho mas acostumbrado a la notacion</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">decimal que a la hexadecimal. Pongo de ejemplo mi caso que siendo</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">programador desde la decada de los 80s. y conociendo bien el hexadecimal</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">y estando acostumbrado desde los 90s. a la notacion decimal del IpV4,</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span
class="" style="">cuando vi por primera vez la notacion del IpV6 me resulto desagradable a</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">la vista y media confusa.</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">Entiendo quiza el porque de la notacion hexadecimal de los creadores del</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">protocolo (como programadores por un tema de practicidad y eficiencia),</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">pero
como buenos programadores no debemos dejar de lado que nuestros</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">productos (programas) deben ser lo mas eficientemente posible en cuanto</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">a la tecnica, pero nunca debemos olvidar ni dejar de lado la faceta de</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">la ergonomia ya que en definitiva esta caracteristica es la que hace mas</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span
class="" style="">amena hacia el humano la interaccion con el programa.</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">La propuesta no es un cambio de fondo del protocolo, sino simplemente la</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">adecuacion del sistema decimal para el ingreso de los digitos que</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">componen la direccion IpV6.</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">Es por eso, que propongo se
analice la posibilidad de la implementacion</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">de la notacion decimal por lo menos en la seccion de ingreso de</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">parametros de Ip en las interfaces graficas y de texto de todo programa</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">relacionado y que utilice el Protocolo de Internet version 6.</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">Quedo a la espera de sus
comentarios, desde ya gracias por su tiempo.</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">Atte.</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style=""></span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">Axel Mori</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">Santa Clara del Mar</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><span class="" style="">Buenos
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