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Hi Nicolas, if you mean -I as in using icmp as the trace protocol,
all those traces where made in that fashion.<br>
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thank you<br>
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Yes, I'm able to reach that ip destination (worked better
with "traceroute -I" but still worked) from my desktop.<br>
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May you try using -I modifyer... just to make sure...<br>
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May you tell us the IP from where you're not able to reach
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On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Sascha E. Pollok <span
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Hi Nicolas,<br>
<br>
are you able to also do a traceroute Hetzner (Germany) to
the two IPs at Antel? Otherweise I could talk to one of the
people I know at Hetzner (for those who dont know: it is a
virtual server hoster in Germany).<br>
<br>
Cheers<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Sascha</font></span>
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On Wed, 10 Apr 2013, Nicolas Pence wrote:<br>
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Hi, today I've found traffic issues when going to
Germany, forcing the connection<br>
to take an IP Address starting with 186.52.x.x seemed
to partially solve the issue<br>
but not at it's full throughput, any help would be
great.<br>
<br>
Fails from ANTEL's ADSL:<br>
<br>
traceroute to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://hetzner.com" target="_blank">hetzner.com</a>
(213.133.107.241), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets<br>
1 192.168.1.153 1.179 ms 1.178 ms 1.174 ms<br>
2 200.40.21.3 44.607 ms 48.042 ms 49.479 ms<br>
3 200.40.21.205 76.359 ms 76.388 ms 76.384 ms<br>
4 200.40.16.165 60.436 ms 62.863 ms 66.782 ms<br>
5 200.40.18.166 82.375 ms 82.885 ms 82.888 ms<br>
6 84.16.8.89 207.306 ms 209.372 ms 225.846 ms<br>
7 176.52.251.198 225.848 ms <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:176.52.249.242"
value="+17652249242" target="_blank">176.52.249.242</a>
189.527 ms 94.142.126.186 188.554 ms<br>
8 176.52.249.145 227.316 ms <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:176.52.249.149"
value="+17652249149" target="_blank">176.52.249.149</a>
186.298 ms 213.140.37.82 187.775 ms<br>
9 * * *<br>
10 * * *<br>
11 * * *<br>
<br>
from ANTEL's ADSL (going through tinet):<br>
<br>
traceroute to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://hetzner.com" target="_blank">hetzner.com</a>
(213.133.107.241), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets<br>
1 192.168.1.153 (192.168.1.153) 0.656 ms 0.652 ms
0.647 ms<br>
2 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://cor1bras1.antel.net.uy" target="_blank">cor1bras1.antel.net.uy</a>
(200.40.21.3) 43.827 ms 46.736 ms 49.189 ms<br>
3 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ibb2cor1-7-2-92.antel.net.uy"
target="_blank">ibb2cor1-7-2-92.antel.net.uy</a>
(200.40.21.77) 52.125 ms 54.558 ms 56.897 ms<br>
4 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ibb2agu1-1-3.antel.net.uy"
target="_blank">ibb2agu1-1-3.antel.net.uy</a>
(200.40.16.73) 59.787 ms 61.854 ms 64.776 ms<br>
5 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ibr3agu1-p1.antel.net.uy"
target="_blank">ibr3agu1-p1.antel.net.uy</a>
(200.40.18.38) 68.853 ms 69.899 ms 72.247 ms<br>
6 84.16.8.89 (84.16.8.89) 242.878 ms 243.811 ms *<br>
7 * * *<br>
8 * * *<br>
9 * * *<br>
10 * * *<br>
11 * <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ae-70-70.csw2.Paris1.Level3.net"
target="_blank">ae-70-70.csw2.Paris1.Level3.net</a>
(4.69.168.126) 315.324 ms 314.321 ms<br>
12 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ae-72-72.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net"
target="_blank">ae-72-72.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net</a>
(4.69.161.97) 308.838 ms 311.108 ms 313.784 ms<br>
13 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ae-46-46.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net"
target="_blank">ae-46-46.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net</a>
(4.69.143.137) 324.978 ms 333.618 ms 329.271 ms<br>
14 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ae-71-71.csw2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net"
target="_blank">ae-71-71.csw2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net</a>
(4.69.140.6) 317.606 ms 319.629 ms 322.031 ms<br>
15 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ae-2-70.edge7.Frankfurt1.Level3.net"
target="_blank">ae-2-70.edge7.Frankfurt1.Level3.net</a>
(4.69.154.75) 324.231 ms 350.263 ms 350.090 ms<br>
16 195.16.162.254 (195.16.162.254) 353.490 ms
363.258 ms *<br>
17 * * *<br>
18 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://hos-tr3.ms-ex3k2.rz1.hetzner.de"
target="_blank">hos-tr3.ms-ex3k2.rz1.hetzner.de</a>
(213.239.193.227) 308.911 ms 317.807 ms 311.427 ms<br>
19 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://dedihetzner.your-server.de"
target="_blank">dedihetzner.your-server.de</a>
(213.133.107.241) 317.481 ms 323.116 ms 308.836 ms<br>
<br>
Checking the ownership of those IP's it seems that:<br>
<br>
route: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://84.16.0.0/19" target="_blank">84.16.0.0/19</a><br>
descr: Telefonica International Wholesale
Network<br>
<br>
and<br>
<br>
inetnum: 176.52.248.0 - <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:176.52.251.255"
value="+17652251255" target="_blank">176.52.251.255</a><br>
netname: TDATANET<br>
descr: Telefonica International Wholesale
Network TIWS Infrastructure<br>
<br>
<br>
Thank you<br>
<br>
On 10/04/13 11:53, Nicolas Antoniello wrote:<br>
Hi Sascha,<br>
<br>
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2013/4/6 Sascha E. Pollok <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:sp@iphh.net"
target="_blank">sp@iphh.net</a>><br>
Hola a todos,<br>
<br>
sorry - todavia no hablo espanol bien.
Will switch to English. Maintaining a<br>
relationship using Skype from Germany to
Uruguay, I am sensible to throughput<br>
problems of course. Recently (yesterday) I
had several issues<br>
with routes going down the Tinet way (it
should be Tiscali/Inteliquent, not<br>
Telecom Italia).<br>
<br>
<br>
Yes, my typo (in fact it's
Tiscali/Inteliquent)...<br>
<br>
<br>
With heavy losses I think in the US. Changing
the route to Globalcrossing<br>
(AS3549)->Telefonica->Antel changed it.
The routes we see here are only the ones to<br>
Tinet and Telefonica (while most more-specifics
are seen on the Telefonica path).<br>
<br>
I will setup some smokepings and keep an eye. If
I see something again, I will save some<br>
MTRs Europe->Montevideo back-and-forth and
send them for<br>
comparison.<br>
<br>
<br>
That´s it! That is what I believe will be more usefull
to try to isolate the problematic segment of<br>
the path. As soon as you have something please send it
to the list so as to try to find out where<br>
the problem is.<br>
<br>
<br>
Any stable hosts in MVD I may throw into the
smokeping from the UK and<br>
Germany?<br>
<br>
Muchisimas gracias y saludos<br>
Sascha<br>
<br>
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Hamburg, HRB 76071<br>
20537 Hamburg, Germany CEO: Axel
G. Kroeger<br>
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On Fri, 5 Apr 2013, Nicolas Antoniello wrote:<br>
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Hola Luar,<br>
<br>
Resulta un poco raro no? Pues no veo
grandes problemas o diferencias con<br>
esos trace... uno de ellos parece<br>
que más allá de Antel cursa por Tinet
(Telecom Italia) y el otro por<br>
Telefónica con lo que de ser entre<br>
Antel y el peer de tránsito el problema
sería con ambos (o al menos eso<br>
esperíamos ya que indicas que el<br>
problema se presenta en los 2 casos).<br>
Por otro lado, por la latencia que hay no
se puede concluir que existe un<br>
problema de "estrangulamiento"<br>
de tráfico como el que experimentas...
creo que habría que hacer algunas<br>
pruebas entre USA y Europa<br>
(intentando cursar por los mismos camimos
o similares) para ver donde puede<br>
estar el problema.<br>
Todo indicaría que esta entre USA y Europa
no?<br>
<br>
Saludos,<br>
Nico<br>
<br>
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2013/4/1 Luar Roji <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nic@roji.net"
target="_blank">nic@roji.net</a>><br>
Hola Nico!<br>
<br>
Desde ADSL: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://gist.github.com/cyberplant/5286556"
target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/cyberplant/5286556</a><br>
<br>
Desde Fibra Optica: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://gist.github.com/cyberplant/5286562"
target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/cyberplant/5286562</a><br>
<br>
Saludos!<br>
<br>
On Mon, Apr 01, 2013 at 02:37:56PM
-0300, Nicolas Antoniello wrote:<br>
> Luar,<br>
><br>
> Tenés algún Traceroute que
puedas pasar para ver el camino que están<br>
> siguiendo los paquetes desde
Europa?<br>
> Tal vez podamos ver donde se
estaría dando el cuello de botella.<br>
><br>
> Saludos,<br>
> Nico<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 2013/4/1 Luar Roji <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nic@roji.net"
target="_blank">nic@roji.net</a>><br>
><br>
> > Hola!<br>
> ><br>
> > A raiz de unas discusiones
con un amigo bastante quejoso se me dio<br>
por<br>
> > investigar un poco mas y
al final tenia razon.<br>
> ><br>
> > Me gustaria tener un poco
mas de idea de si el problema es nuestro<br>
> > (uruguay-antel) por los
peers con los que hay enlace, o el<br>
problema es algo<br>
> > mas de fondo.<br>
> ><br>
> > Para referencia estuve
intentando descargar este archivo:<br>
> > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/ls-lR.gz"
target="_blank">http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/ls-lR.gz</a><br>
> ><br>
> > desde la conexion de mi
casa (ADSL 6Mbit), y desde una fibra de<br>
30Mb y la<br>
> > velocidad fue de 30K/seg
promedio (con algunos picos de hasta<br>
100K).<br>
> ><br>
> > Como termometro hice la
misma descarga desde USA y la velocidad<br>
supero el<br>
> > megabit por segundo.<br>
> ><br>
> > Tambien descargue el mismo
archivo desde USA desde la fibra y el<br>
ADSL y en<br>
> > ambos casos llego a la
velocidad esperada.<br>
> ><br>
> > Para los que quieran
probar contra USA,<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://roji.net/files/ls-lR.gz"
target="_blank">http://roji.net/files/ls-lR.gz</a><br>
> ><br>
> > Alguien mas tiene este
mismo problema?<br>
> ><br>
> > Saludos!<br>
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