<p dir="ltr">Bingo!</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 18, 2015 1:39 PM, "Carlos M. Martinez" <<a href="mailto:carlosm3011@gmail.com">carlosm3011@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Es posible que Level3 solo la haya propagado... y que los que hayan<br>
permitido que se fugara hayan sido los operadores móviles.<br>
<br>
On 12/18/15 12:29 PM, Gustavo Rodrigues Ramos wrote:<br>
> No me parece que L3 ha generado la ruta nula, al menos por lo que la<br>
> salida siguiente muestra. Pero todavía estoy buscando en los datos<br>
> histórico de bgp.<br>
><br>
> (La salida és desde el correo de Alejandro D'Egidio).<br>
><br>
> route-server.phx1>show ip route 184.173.147.39<br>
> Routing entry for <a href="http://184.173.147.39/32" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">184.173.147.39/32</a> <<a href="http://184.173.147.39/32" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://184.173.147.39/32</a>><br>
> Known via "bgp 3549", distance 200, metric 0<br>
> Tag 18881, type internal<br>
> Last update from 67.16.148.37 12:05:25 ago<br>
> Routing Descriptor Blocks:<br>
> * 67.16.148.37, from 4.69.243.196, 12:05:25 ago<br>
> Route metric is 0, traffic share count is 1<br>
> AS Hops 1<br>
> Route tag 18881 <--------<br>
><br>
> Saludos,<br>
> Gustavo.<br>
><br>
><br>
> 2015-12-18 12:49 GMT-02:00 Christian O'Flaherty<br>
> <<a href="mailto:christian.oflaherty@gmail.com">christian.oflaherty@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:christian.oflaherty@gmail.com">christian.oflaherty@gmail.com</a>>>:<br>
><br>
> > Entiendo la responsabilidad de origen, el orden del juez, pero no<br>
> > entiendo por que L3 dejó el bloqueo escapar hacia afuera de Brasil. Es<br>
> > sobre esta responsabilidad específica que pregunto.<br>
><br>
> No sabemos donde fue la configuración, tampoco sabemos si “dejó<br>
> escapar” o es el efecto normal. Solo vemos el efecto en la red de<br>
> Level3 porque es un operador serio que tiene looking glass y muestra<br>
> en forma transparente lo que hay dentro de su red (no podemos verlo en<br>
> otros operadores).<br>
><br>
> Decir que Level3 dejó escapar el bloqueo es injusto...<br>
><br>
> ><br>
> > Tampoco sé si otras operadoras de tránsito hicieron lo mismo.<br>
><br>
> En un email anterior aparecían otros también:<br>
><br>
> >>> En Argentina esto está afectando al menos a través de TASA, NAUTILUS y Level3.<br>
><br>
> Christian<br>
><br>
> ><br>
> > []s fraternos<br>
> ><br>
> > --c.a.<br>
> ><br>
> > On 18-12-15 07:35, Christian O'Flaherty wrote:<br>
> >> 2015-12-18 9:22 GMT-03:00 Carlos A. Afonso <<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca">ca@cafonso.ca</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca">ca@cafonso.ca</a>>>:<br>
> >>> Si, entiendo que opera en Brasil pero no oferta servicios de<br>
> banda ancha, apenas conecta las operadoras de movil y fijo. De todas<br>
> maneras, se puede decir que la propagación del bloqueo hacia afiera<br>
> ha sido responsabilidad de L3, correcto?<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> No... la responsabilidad fue del juez que envió una orden<br>
> judicial incorrecta.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Level3 implementó la orden y las consecuencias las debe asumir quien<br>
> >> lo ordenó. Tal vez Level3 hubiera podido hacerlo mejor... eso será<br>
> >> discutido. El operador no es responsable si lo obligan a hacer cosas<br>
> >> incorrectas.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Christian<br>
> >><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> [] fraterno<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> --c.a.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> sent from a dumbphone<br>
> >>><br>
> >>>> On 18 de dez de 2015, at 07:16, Christian O'Flaherty<br>
> <<a href="mailto:christian.oflaherty@gmail.com">christian.oflaherty@gmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:christian.oflaherty@gmail.com">christian.oflaherty@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> Carlos,<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> Level3 es un operador en Brasil. Seguramente recibió la orden<br>
> judicial<br>
> >>>> y por eso envió el tráfico a null (que por error se propago a<br>
> toda su<br>
> >>>> red regional).<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> Level3 compró a Global Crossing que antes había comprado a<br>
> Impsat que<br>
> >>>> compró a Mandic. Recuerdas Mandic?<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> Saludos,<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> 2015-12-17 23:44 GMT-03:00 Carlos Afonso <<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca">ca@cafonso.ca</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca">ca@cafonso.ca</a>>>:<br>
> >>>>> Caros, se puede decir que el *origen* del error que motivó la<br>
> >>>>> propagación a otros países es Level 3? O Level 3 apenas "dejó<br>
> pasar" el<br>
> >>>>> bloqueo en sus tablas de rutas desde una red de las operadoras<br>
> brasileñas?<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> Pregunto porque hay mención acá en Brasil que Level 3 también<br>
> habría<br>
> >>>>> recebido la solicitud de la justicia para bloquear, lo que me<br>
> parece raro.<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> []s fraternos<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> --c.a.<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>>> On 17-12-15 15:56, Roque Gagliano wrote:<br>
> >>>>>> Si te fijas los shows que mandaron, el ASPATH es de largo<br>
> uno, por lo que<br>
> >>>>>> lamentablemente no hemos aprendido nada en tanto tiempo desde la<br>
> >>>>>> experiencia de Pakistán...<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> Creo que deberíamos ver con la gente de RIPE o de Dyn o mismo<br>
> Facebook si<br>
> >>>>>> podemos medir el alcance del problema basado en sus sensores.<br>
> Lo digo pues<br>
> >>>>>> podemos publicar un blogger y alertar sobre las consecuencias<br>
> regionales de<br>
> >>>>>> medidas como estas.<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> Carlos, vos tenes contactos no?<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> Roque<br>
> >>>>>>> On Dec 17, 2015 5:32 PM, "Ivan Chapero"<br>
> <<a href="mailto:info@ivanchapero.com.ar">info@ivanchapero.com.ar</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:info@ivanchapero.com.ar">info@ivanchapero.com.ar</a>>> wrote:<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> ¿Pero esos /32 (o /128 no nos olvidemos de IPv6) salieron<br>
> del ASN de<br>
> >>>>>>> Global/Level?, me parece que el error se limitó a no acotar<br>
> la propagación<br>
> >>>>>>> "dentro" de su ASN a la región/tabla/VRF de Brasil.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Al ser un Tier1 el efecto igual fue inmenso, si me pasa a mi<br>
> dentro de mi<br>
> >>>>>>> AS se limita a 4 ciudades ¬¬<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Slds!<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> El 17 de diciembre de 2015, 15:54, Alex Ojeda<br>
> <<a href="mailto:alex@chilenetworks.com">alex@chilenetworks.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:alex@chilenetworks.com">alex@chilenetworks.com</a>>><br>
> >>>>>>> escribió:<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>> Recuerdo muchas opiniones de las que conversamos en Bogota<br>
> en el WG junto<br>
> >>>>>>>> a Ariel y otros interesados en generar documentos y mejores<br>
> practicas...<br>
> >>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>> Una lástima ocurran estos fallos en un Tier1 que afecte más<br>
> allá de la<br>
> >>>>>>>> jurisdicción de la normativa como fue este el caso...<br>
> >>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>> Carita triste para level3...<br>
> >>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>><br>
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> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------<br>
> >>>>>>>> *De:* LACNOG <<a href="mailto:lacnog-bounces@lacnic.net">lacnog-bounces@lacnic.net</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lacnog-bounces@lacnic.net">lacnog-bounces@lacnic.net</a>>> en nombre de Ariel Weher <<br>
> >>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:ariel@weher.net">ariel@weher.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ariel@weher.net">ariel@weher.net</a>>><br>
> >>>>>>>> *Enviado:* jueves, 17 de diciembre de 2015 10:57<br>
> >>>>>>>> *Para:* Latin America and Caribbean Region Network<br>
> Operators Group<br>
> >>>>>>>> *Cc:* <a href="mailto:lacnog@lacnog.org">lacnog@lacnog.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lacnog@lacnog.org">lacnog@lacnog.org</a>><br>
> >>>>>>>> *Asunto:* Re: [lacnog] RES: Bloqueo de Whatsapp en Brasil<br>
> afectando<br>
> >>>>>>>> acceso al servicio en la Region<br>
> >>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>> +1 para el corte en Argentina vía L3.<br>
> >>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>> Dado los últimos eventos ocurridos (nulleadas, leaks, etc)<br>
> entiendo que<br>
> >>>>>>>> la gente de Level3 nunca aprendió a usar BGP.<br>
> >>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>> S2<br>
> >>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>> 2015-12-17 10:42 GMT-03:00 Roberto Feijoo<br>
> <<a href="mailto:rfeijoo@gigared.com.ar">rfeijoo@gigared.com.ar</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rfeijoo@gigared.com.ar">rfeijoo@gigared.com.ar</a>>>:<br>
> >>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> Exactamente en Argentina Level 3 no funciona, TECO si.<br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> Saludos.<br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> Roberto G. Feijoó<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Jefe de centro de operaciones de red<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Gigared S.A.<br>
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> >>>>>>>>> Ciudad Autónoma de Buenos Aires<br>
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> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> -----Mensaje original-----<br>
> >>>>>>>>> De: LACNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:lacnog-bounces@lacnic.net">lacnog-bounces@lacnic.net</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lacnog-bounces@lacnic.net">lacnog-bounces@lacnic.net</a>>] En nombre de Alejandro<br>
> >>>>>>>>> D'Egidio<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Enviado el: jueves, 17 de diciembre de 2015 10:37 a.m.<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Para: Latin America and Caribbean Region Network Operators<br>
> Group<br>
> >>>>>>>>> CC: <a href="mailto:lacnog@lacnog.org">lacnog@lacnog.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lacnog@lacnog.org">lacnog@lacnog.org</a>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> Asunto: Re: [lacnog] RES: Bloqueo de Whatsapp en Brasil<br>
> afectando acceso<br>
> >>>>>>>>> al<br>
> >>>>>>>>> servicio en la Region<br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> En Argentina esto está afectando al menos a través de<br>
> TASA, NAUTILUS y<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Level3.<br>
> >>>>>>>>> No puede ser que a esta altura no sepan hacer bloqueos.<br>
> Están afectando<br>
> >>>>>>>>> a la<br>
> >>>>>>>>> región!!<br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> Evidentemente deben haber puesto una estática a Null0 ya<br>
> que se está<br>
> >>>>>>>>> distribuyendo IPs del servicio como /32 y son unreachable:<br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> route-server.phx1>show ip route 184.173.147.39 Routing<br>
> entry for<br>
> >>>>>>>>> <a href="http://184.173.147.39/32" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">184.173.147.39/32</a> <<a href="http://184.173.147.39/32" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://184.173.147.39/32</a>> Known via<br>
> "bgp 3549", distance 200, metric 0 Tag<br>
> >>>>>>>>> 18881,<br>
> >>>>>>>>> type internal Last update from 67.16.148.37 12:05:25 ago<br>
> Routing<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Descriptor<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Blocks:<br>
> >>>>>>>>> * 67.16.148.37, from 4.69.243.196, 12:05:25 ago Route<br>
> metric is 0,<br>
> >>>>>>>>> traffic<br>
> >>>>>>>>> share count is 1 AS Hops 1 Route tag 18881 MPLS label: none<br>
> >>>>>>>>> route-server.phx1>show ip route 192.155.212.202 Routing<br>
> entry for<br>
> >>>>>>>>> <a href="http://192.155.212.202/32" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">192.155.212.202/32</a> <<a href="http://192.155.212.202/32" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://192.155.212.202/32</a>> Known via<br>
> "bgp 3549", distance 200, metric 0 Tag<br>
> >>>>>>>>> 18881,<br>
> >>>>>>>>> type internal Last update from 67.16.148.37 12:06:28 ago<br>
> Routing<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Descriptor<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Blocks:<br>
> >>>>>>>>> * 67.16.148.37, from 4.69.243.196, 12:06:28 ago Route<br>
> metric is 0,<br>
> >>>>>>>>> traffic<br>
> >>>>>>>>> share count is 1 AS Hops 1 Route tag 18881 MPLS label: none<br>
> >>>>>>>>> route-server.phx1>show ip route 192.155.212.203 Routing<br>
> entry for<br>
> >>>>>>>>> <a href="http://192.155.212.203/32" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">192.155.212.203/32</a> <<a href="http://192.155.212.203/32" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://192.155.212.203/32</a>> Known via<br>
> "bgp 3549", distance 200, metric 0 Tag<br>
> >>>>>>>>> 18881,<br>
> >>>>>>>>> type internal Last update from 67.16.148.37 12:06:04 ago<br>
> Routing<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Descriptor<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Blocks:<br>
> >>>>>>>>> * 67.16.148.37, from 4.69.243.196, 12:06:04 ago Route<br>
> metric is 0,<br>
> >>>>>>>>> traffic<br>
> >>>>>>>>> share count is 1 AS Hops 1 Route tag 18881 MPLS label: none<br>
> >>>>>>>>> route-server.phx1>show ip route 184.173.147.38 Routing<br>
> entry for<br>
> >>>>>>>>> <a href="http://184.173.147.38/32" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">184.173.147.38/32</a> <<a href="http://184.173.147.38/32" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://184.173.147.38/32</a>> Known via<br>
> "bgp 3549", distance 200, metric 0 Tag<br>
> >>>>>>>>> 18881,<br>
> >>>>>>>>> type internal Last update from 67.16.148.37 12:06:20 ago<br>
> Routing<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Descriptor<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Blocks:<br>
> >>>>>>>>> * 67.16.148.37, from 4.69.243.196, 12:06:20 ago Route<br>
> metric is 0,<br>
> >>>>>>>>> traffic<br>
> >>>>>>>>> share count is 1 AS Hops 1 Route tag 18881 MPLS label: none<br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> route-server.phx1>ping 184.173.147.60<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Type escape sequence to abort.<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 184.173.147.60, timeout<br>
> is 2 seconds:<br>
> >>>>>>>>> U.U.U<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)<br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> Saludos,<br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> Alejandro D'Egidio<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Jefe de Ingeniería de Backbone<br>
> >>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:adegidio@telecentro.net.ar">adegidio@telecentro.net.ar</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:adegidio@telecentro.net.ar">adegidio@telecentro.net.ar</a>><br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
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> >>>>>>>>> ----- Mensaje original -----<br>
> >>>>>>>>> De: "Evandro POLIZEI" <<a href="mailto:polizei@polizei.com.br">polizei@polizei.com.br</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:polizei@polizei.com.br">polizei@polizei.com.br</a>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> Para: "Latin America and Caribbean Region Network<br>
> Operators Group"<br>
> >>>>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:lacnog@lacnic.net">lacnog@lacnic.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lacnog@lacnic.net">lacnog@lacnic.net</a>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> CC: <a href="mailto:lacnog@lacnog.org">lacnog@lacnog.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lacnog@lacnog.org">lacnog@lacnog.org</a>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> Enviados: Jueves, 17 de Diciembre 2015 10:21:41<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Asunto: [lacnog] RES: Bloqueo de Whatsapp en Brasil<br>
> afectando acceso al<br>
> >>>>>>>>> servicio en la Region<br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> Buenas Hernamo Sebastian,<br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> Se es possible contornar lo problema com la VPN, tiene um<br>
> app que abre la<br>
> >>>>>>>>> conexion segura com servidoras Whatsapp, que possibilita<br>
> la conexion, se<br>
> >>>>>>>>> lhana BETTERNET, ele conecta com uma VPN e acesso<br>
> normalmente o WhatsApp.<br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> Best Regards,<br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------<br>
> >>>>>>>>> POLIZEI, Evandro<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Mobile: <a href="tel:%2B55%2019%2099980-1777" value="+5519999801777">+55 19 99980-1777</a> <tel:%2B55%2019%2099980-1777><br>
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> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> Quando capaz, finja ser incapaz; quando pronto, finja<br>
> estar despreparado;<br>
> >>>>>>>>> quando próximo, finja estar longe; quando longe, façam<br>
> acreditar que está<br>
> >>>>>>>>> próximo.<br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> Sun Tzu<br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> -----Mensagem original-----<br>
> >>>>>>>>> De: LACNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:lacnog-bounces@lacnic.net">lacnog-bounces@lacnic.net</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lacnog-bounces@lacnic.net">lacnog-bounces@lacnic.net</a>>] Em nome de Sebastian<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Bellagamba Enviada em: quinta-feira, 17 de dezembro de<br>
> 2015 10:45<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Para: Latin America and Caribbean Region Network Operators<br>
> Group<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Cc: <a href="mailto:lacnog@lacnog.org">lacnog@lacnog.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lacnog@lacnog.org">lacnog@lacnog.org</a>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> Assunto: Re: [lacnog] Bloqueo de Whatsapp en Brasil<br>
> afectando acceso al<br>
> >>>>>>>>> servicio en la Region<br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> Esta bloqueado de hecho, hoy y mañana, aunque el bloqueo<br>
> es solo para las<br>
> >>>>>>>>> redes de datos de las moviles. Si la persona con la que<br>
> hablaste estaba<br>
> >>>>>>>>> en<br>
> >>>>>>>>> wifi, el bloqueo no aplica.<br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> Saludos<br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> Sebastián Bellagamba<br>
> >>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:bellagamba@isoc.org">bellagamba@isoc.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bellagamba@isoc.org">bellagamba@isoc.org</a>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> -------------------------------<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Director - Oficina Regional para América Latina y el<br>
> Caribe Regional<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Bureau<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Director for Latin America and the Caribbean<br>
> ================== Internet<br>
> >>>>>>>>> Society <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.internetsociety.org</a><br>
> <<a href="http://www.internetsociety.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.internetsociety.org</a>><br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 17, 2015, at 09:42, Ernesto Perez<br>
> <<a href="mailto:ernesto.perez@cedia.org.ec">ernesto.perez@cedia.org.ec</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ernesto.perez@cedia.org.ec">ernesto.perez@cedia.org.ec</a>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:<br>
> >>>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>>> Bueno : Acabo de hablar con alguien del estado de sp sin<br>
> problemas.<br>
> >>>>>>>>>> Quizá<br>
> >>>>>>>>> no sea hoy?<br>
> >>>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>>> --<br>
> >>>>>>>>>> Saludos<br>
> >>>>>>>>>> Epe<br>
> >>>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>>>> El 17 dic 2015, a las 7:23 a.m., Alex Ojeda<br>
> <<a href="mailto:alex@chilenetworks.com">alex@chilenetworks.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:alex@chilenetworks.com">alex@chilenetworks.com</a>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>> escribió:<br>
> >>>>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Nuestros amigos de Brasil nos podrían contar un poco lo<br>
> que ha<br>
> >>>>>>>>> significado llevar a cabo la orden judicial que solicitó<br>
> bloquear<br>
> >>>>>>>>> whatsapp.<br>
> >>>>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>>>> En Chile a través de varios ISP estamos sin acceso al<br>
> servicio.<br>
> >>>>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Algún otro país ?<br>
> >>>>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Alex Ojeda<br>
> >>>>>>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>>>>>><br>
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