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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I see your point, and I hope nobody is so short-minded to read the document that way.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>However, just in case, we can have a prominent General Requirement:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>GR-03: The CPE MUST support IPv6 following RFC7084 and transition mechanisms (</span><span lang=EN-US>draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-ipv4aas), in order to avoid the risk of a premature obsolescence.</span><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The mention to </span><span lang=EN-US>draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-ipv4aas will be sufficient once it is an RFC, because it already has a MUST for RFC7084.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I think it makes a lot of sense.</span><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><br>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>De: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>BCOP <bcop-bounces@lacnog.org> en nombre de Jan Zorz <zorz@isoc.org><br><b>Responder a: </b>This list is to discuss BCOPs in LACNOG <bcop@lacnog.org><br><b>Fecha: </b>sábado, 16 de junio de 2018, 15:59<br><b>Para: </b>"bcop@lacnog.org" <bcop@lacnog.org><br><b>Asunto: </b>Re: [BCOP] BCOP Draft-2: open for comments<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'>He he, should we declare absence of IPv6 support a security risk? :D<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'>On a serious note - somebody could go, get this list of requirements, discover that IPv6 is not a requirement and with straight face order cpe's without IPv6 support. That's a risk that I see.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'>I would add just a sentence at the beginning that it is presumed for the purpose of the document that IPv6 and IPv4 protocols are supported, implemented and enabled.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Cheers, Jan<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>---<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Sent from mobile phone, please excuse brevity and top-posting<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>On 16 Jun 2018, at 16:33, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <<a href="mailto:jordi.palet@consulintel.es" target="_blank">jordi.palet@consulintel.es</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><pre style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'>Hi Jan,<br><br><br><br>It is a "minimum security for acquisition", not minimum features ... Those features are better documented in RFC7084 and if you want to support transition soon, hopefully in the RFC resulting from draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-ipv4aas <br><br><br><br>I think when done, we can also bring it to RIPE ?<br><br><br><br>Regards,<br><br>Jordi<br><br> <br><br> <br><br><br><br>-----Mensaje original-----<br><br>De: BCOP <bcop-bounces@lacnog.org> en nombre de Jan Zorz - ISOC <zorz@isoc.org><br><br>Responder a: This list is to discuss BCOPs in LACNOG <bcop@lacnog.org><br><br>Fecha: sábado, 16 de junio de 2018, 15:27<br><br>Para: <bcop@lacnog.org><br><br>Asunto: Re: [BCOP] BCOP Draft-2: open for comments<br><br><br><br> On 16/06/2018 04:59, Lucimara Desiderá wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'> Hello LACNOG Community<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'> After two rounds of discussions, we are releasing today the Draft-2 of <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'> the BCOP document "Minimum security requirements for CPEs acquisition".<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'> Until July 22, 2018, the Draft-2 will be open for comments and <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'> suggestions from the whole LACNOG community and you are all welcome to <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'> provide feedback and make contributions. Contributors from M3AAWG will <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'> also have the opportunity to review the document.<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'> The Draft-2 is available at the link below. In order make comments and <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'> to see others' suggestions, please sign in to Google Docs and request <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'> permission to edit.<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #729FCF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_Sa8ZEnKXiAnh_xRc-J44VXadUGdr98MT_MZrA5sALc/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_Sa8ZEnKXiAnh_xRc-J44VXadUGdr98MT_MZrA5sALc/edit?usp=sharing</a> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><br> <br><br> Hey,<br><br> <br><br> Thank you for sharing, this is a great document. I skimmed through while <br><br> waiting for my flight home at Helsinki airport and document looks in <br><br> good shape. It's a bit IETF-ish, but on the other hand that also gives <br><br> clarity to the language.<br><br> <br><br> One thing that I'm missing is that IPv6 is not requested as a must <br><br> anywhere. Do we presume that new CPEs have IPv6 by default anyway?<br><br> <br><br> Cheers and thnx, Jan<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:center'><hr size=0 width="100%" align=center></pre><pre style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><br><br> BCOP mailing list<br><br> BCOP@lacnog.org<br><br> <a href="https://mail.lacnic.net/mailman/listinfo/bcop">https://mail.lacnic.net/mailman/listinfo/bcop</a><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br>**********************************************<br>IPv4 is over<br>Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br><a href="http://www.consulintel.es">http://www.consulintel.es</a><br>The IPv6 Company<br><br>This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. 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