<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body ><div style='font-size:12pt;font-family:Courier,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;'><div id="message"></div>Ja! Es una versión de estimados y estimadas. Con esas prácticas tan de moda hoy día que pretenden ser inclusivas de género y se manifiestan exclusivas del conocimiento de la lengua de Cervantes. Fernando hace uso de su versión personalizada de este concepto.<div><br></div><div>Si usa correctamente 'estimados' habrá quienes se ofendan por no incluir estimadas..... Así que concatena ambos en una palabra de su propio cuño que es neutra de género.<br id="br3"><br id="br3"><br id="br3"><div id="signature"><div><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif, sans-serif" class="font"><b><img style="float: left" src="cid:0.28869226590.7710025497609681487.177a726310c__inline__img__src" width="61" height="106"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif, sans-serif" class="font">J. Enrique Díaz Jolly </span></b> </span> <br></div><div><i><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif, sans-serif" class="font">Founder - CTO <br> Consulting Systems Engineer <br> </span> </i> <a href="mailto:enrique@jolly-security.tech" target="_blank"> <span style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif, sans-serif" class="font"> enrique@jolly-security.tech </span> </a> <span style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif, sans-serif" class="font"> <br> +1-514-502-8657</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px" class="size">Jolly Security Inc. — Sécurité Jolly Inc.</span><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px" class="size"><i>We Think Differently! </i></span> <br></div></div><div id="content"><br> ---- On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 06:58:08 -0500 <b> fhfrediani@gmail.com </b> wrote ----<br><br><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 6px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>Hola Fernando
<br>
<br>¿Qué significa la palabra "Estimades" en idioma Español?
<br>
<br>Fernando
<br>
<br>On 15/02/2021 01:52, Fernando Gont wrote:
<br>> Estimades,
<br>>
<br>> En la lista de gendispatch de IETF
<br>> (<a href="https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gendispatch" target="_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gendispatch</a>) se está
<br>> discutiendo el tema de diversidad, incluyendo cuestiones como
<br>> diversidad geografica, y otras tantas (cosas que afectan directamente
<br>> a la participación desde la región).
<br>>
<br>> No veo a nadie de la region.
<br>>
<br>> No deberia el/los chairs de este grupo (ietf-lac), minimamente,
<br>> participar en dicha discusión?
<br>>
<br>> Sino pareciera que el grupo ietf-lac@ se tratara de un brazo de
<br>> "outreach" de IETF, lo cual sería bastante preocupante.....
<br>>
<br>> Saludos,
<br>> Fernando
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
<br>> Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] draft charter text: terminology-related WG
<br>> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2021 20:15:00 -0800
<br>> From: S Moonesamy <<a href="mailto:sm+ietf@elandsys.com" target="_blank">sm+ietf@elandsys.com</a>>
<br>> To: Jay Daley <<a href="mailto:jay@ietf.org" target="_blank">jay@ietf.org</a>>, <a href="mailto:gendispatch@ietf.org" target="_blank">gendispatch@ietf.org</a>
<br>>
<br>> Dear Mr Daley,
<br>> At 12:24 PM 14-02-2021, Jay Daley wrote:
<br>>> Having wealthy, credentialed, [removed] people take the issue of
<br>>> diversity and inclusivity seriously enough to try to explicitly and
<br>>> publicly change their behaviours is to me neither patronising nor
<br>>> disempowering, but rather it is both heartening and solidarity
<br>>> building. The alternative of wealthy, credentialed, [removed] people
<br>>> not wishing to do that makes me wary that either they are racist, or
<br>>> sympathise with racists, or seek to diminish or ignore the historic
<br>>> impact of racism. To use modern terminology, the difference is
<br>>> between feeling "safe" and "unsafe".
<br>>>
<br>>> This wariness directly affects participation - if there is a decision
<br>>> to be made on where to direct resources then (on average) the
<br>>> "unsafe" organisation loses out.
<br>>
<br>> How does the wariness affect IETF participation?
<br>>
<br>> Is the (current) IETF viewed as an "unsafe" organisation?
<br>>
<br>> What is your opinion about
<br>> <a href="https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/edu-team/aXsNAGUHJe_nPGKxebRS7GdCXzU/" target="_blank">https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/edu-team/aXsNAGUHJe_nPGKxebRS7GdCXzU/</a>
<br>>
<br>> Regards,
<br>> S. Moonesamy
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