<div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:monospace,monospace" class="gmail_default">Luiz Gustavo</div><div style="font-family:monospace,monospace" class="gmail_default">And I say as route-server too. You won't know what people do to won't have any preocupation to buy or use a hardware to do a correct job.</div><div style="font-family:monospace,monospace" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:monospace,monospace" class="gmail_default">When I ask to you data that confirm your affirmations, I say that because, as I know, obviously, the majority of people using quagga/frr, not bird. See: you have sayed that IX.br use bird but when I connect to these route-servers I see only quagga.</div><div style="font-family:monospace,monospace" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:monospace,monospace" class="gmail_default">telnet <a href="http://lg.sp.ptt.br">lg.sp.ptt.br</a><br>Trying 200.160.6.199...<br>Connected to <a href="http://lg.sp.ix.br">lg.sp.ix.br</a>.<br>Escape character is '^]'.<br>==============================================<br>= IX.br de Sao Paulo/SP =<br>= Contact: <a href="mailto:eng@ix.br">eng@ix.br</a> =<br>= +55 11 5509-3550 =<br>= =<br>= =<br>= Looking Glass Server =<br>= All connections and keystrokes logged =<br>==============================================<br><a href="http://lg.sp.ptt.br">lg.sp.ptt.br</a>> show ip bgp summary<br>BGP router identifier 187.16.222.252, local AS number 263044<br>RIB entries 266105, using 24 MiB of memory<br>Peers 8, using 36 KiB of memory<br>Dampening enabled.<br><br>Neighbor V AS MsgRcvd MsgSent TblVer InQ OutQ Up/Down State/PfxRcd<br>187.16.216.253 4 26162 46101537 1851723 0 0 0 04w5d23h 150740<br>187.16.216.254 4 26162 44606171 1851158 0 0 0 08w5d20h 150418<br>187.16.223.253 4 26162 41904613 1851010 0 0 0 06w0d23h 150304<br>187.16.223.254 4 26162 45010457 1851243 0 0 0 04w5d23h 150675<br><br>Total number of neighbors 4<br><a href="http://lg.sp.ptt.br">lg.sp.ptt.br</a>> show<br> bgp BGP information<br> history Display the session command history<br> ip IP information<br> ipv6 IP information<br> logging Show current logging configuration<br> memory Memory statistics<br> thread Thread information<br> version Displays zebra version<br> work-queues Work Queue information<br><a href="http://lg.sp.ptt.br">lg.sp.ptt.br</a>> show version<br>Quagga 0.99.20.1 (<a href="http://lg.sp.ptt.br">lg.sp.ptt.br</a>).<br>Copyright 1996-2005 Kunihiro Ishiguro, et al.<br><a href="http://lg.sp.ptt.br">lg.sp.ptt.br</a>><br></div><div style="font-family:monospace,monospace" class="gmail_default">IX.br uses quagga, including in Curitiba</div><div style="font-family:monospace,monospace" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:monospace,monospace" class="gmail_default"> telnet <a href="http://lg.pr.ptt.br">lg.pr.ptt.br</a><br>Trying 200.238.132.29...<br>Connected to <a href="http://lg.pr.ix.br">lg.pr.ix.br</a>.<br>Escape character is '^]'.<br>==============================================<br>= IX.br de Curitiba/PR =<br>= Contact: <a href="mailto:eng@ix.br">eng@ix.br</a> =<br>= +55 11 5509-3550 =<br>= =<br>= =<br>= Looking Glass Server =<br>= All connections and keystrokes logged =<br>==============================================<br><br><br><a href="http://lg.pr.ix.br">lg.pr.ix.br</a>> show version<br>Quagga 0.99.24.1 (<a href="http://lg.pr.ix.br">lg.pr.ix.br</a>).<br>Copyright 1996-2005 Kunihiro Ishiguro, et al.<br>configured with:<br> --build=x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --includedir=${prefix}/include --mandir=${prefix}/share/man --infodir=${prefix}/share/info --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --disable-silent-rules --libexecdir=${prefix}/lib/quagga --disable-maintainer-mode --disable-dependency-tracking --enable-exampledir=/usr/share/doc/quagga/examples/ --localstatedir=/var/run/quagga --sbindir=/usr/lib/quagga --sysconfdir=/etc/quagga --enable-vtysh --enable-isisd --enable-watchquagga --enable-ospf-te --enable-opaque-lsa --enable-ipv6 --enable-ospfclient=yes --enable-ospfapi=yes --enable-multipath=64 --enable-user=quagga --enable-group=quagga --enable-vty-group=quaggavty --enable-configfile-mask=0640 --enable-logfile-mask=0640 --enable-rtadv --enable-gcc-rdynamic --enable-pimd --with-libpam CFLAGS=-g -O2 -fPIE -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security CPPFLAGS=-Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 CXXFLAGS=-g -O2 -fPIE -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security FCFLAGS=-g -O2 -fPIE -fstack-protector-strong FFLAGS=-g -O2 -fPIE -fstack-protector-strong GCJFLAGS=-g -O2 -fPIE -fstack-protector-strong LDFLAGS=-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -fPIE -pie -Wl,-z,relro -Wl,-z,now OBJCFLAGS=-g -O2 -fPIE -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security OBJCXXFLAGS=-g -O2 -fPIE -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security<br><a href="http://lg.pr.ix.br">lg.pr.ix.br</a>></div><div style="font-family:monospace,monospace" class="gmail_default"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em qui., 1 de abr. de 2021 às 11:02, Luiz Gustavo <<a href="mailto:luizgb@gmail.com">luizgb@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi Lucas,<div><br></div><div>Just to be clear. I am talking about IXP infrastructure and not the participant. I said Bird is the choice for the majority of IXPs for route server, which is not related to what the participant decides to use (MK, Juniper, Huawei, Cisco, etc...).</div><div>For example: IX.br, DE-CIX, AMS-IX, LINX, they all use Bird for their route servers.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>Att.</div><div>Luiz Gustavo Barros</div><div>UEPG</div></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em qui., 1 de abr. de 2021 às 10:29, Lucas Willian Bocchi <<a href="mailto:lucas.bocchi@gmail.com" target="_blank">lucas.bocchi@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">Leandro</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">FRR already have RPKI / IXP Manager Support.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">And, as far I know, the people are using more MIKROTIK, juniper, huawey solutions on BGP. In open-source environment, I glad if you can send any documentation that can confirm your affirmations.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em qui., 1 de abr. de 2021 às 10:22, Luiz Gustavo <<a href="mailto:luizgb@gmail.com" target="_blank">luizgb@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Leandro,</div><div><br></div><div>I am a tech lead of an IXP in southern Brazil and at the beginning of our operation I also had some questions about how to start it.</div><div>As Rubens said, you may start with IXP Manager which covers 90% of use cases (maybe 100% when you are starting). It includes a default template for Bird which implements a lot of well-known best practices and route filtering. I also recommend using Bird v2 which have RPKI support. I also preferred a "cisco-like" interface, but for a route server Bird is the choice for the majority of IXPs. It just takes some time to get used to its commands.</div><div>You may check MANRS IXP Programme [1] to to start your operation foreseeing to comply with the good practices that the initiative recommends.</div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="https://www.manrs.org/ixps/" target="_blank">https://www.manrs.org/ixps/</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Att.</div><div>Luiz Gustavo Barros</div><div>UEPG</div><div><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em qui., 1 de abr. de 2021 às 09:59, Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@gmail.com" target="_blank">rubensk@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div>It was supposed to be in but it was indeed delayed. But while it's not multithreaded as of now 2021 April 1st, it's coming real soon. </div><div><br></div><div>And when coupled with support of automated config from IXP Manager, choosing Bird v2 is still my suggestion. Besides IX's with 1000+ members, non mutlithreaded will get you far for the time being. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Rubens</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 9:54 AM Lucas Willian Bocchi <<a href="mailto:lucas.bocchi@gmail.com" target="_blank">lucas.bocchi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">Rubens</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">At least thread that I follow</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><a href="https://bird.network.cz/pipermail/bird-users/2020-January/014161.html" target="_blank">https://bird.network.cz/pipermail/bird-users/2020-January/014161.html</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">I won't see any notice that it's released a multithread version.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">On NEWS file on git</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><a href="https://gitlab.nic.cz/labs/bird/-/blob/master/NEWS" target="_blank">https://gitlab.nic.cz/labs/bird/-/blob/master/NEWS</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">I won't see anything too. If you know anything different, please advise me!!! I really won't see any news about multithread support on bird.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em qui., 1 de abr. de 2021 às 09:40, Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@gmail.com" target="_blank">rubensk@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div>Are you saying BIRDv2 is not multithreaded ? </div><div><br></div><div>Rubens</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 8:45 AM Lucas Willian Bocchi <<a href="mailto:lucas.bocchi@gmail.com" target="_blank">lucas.bocchi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">Su puedo ayudar, un software más "cisco-like" y multithread (bird, hasta el momiento, no eres) es <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><a href="https://frrouting.org/" target="_blank">https://frrouting.org/</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">Pero bird eres muy bueno también.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em qui., 1 de abr. de 2021 às 08:39, Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@gmail.com" target="_blank">rubensk@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div><a href="https://www.ixpmanager.org/" target="_blank">https://www.ixpmanager.org/</a> for overall management and Bird v2 (2.0.8 as of today, <a href="https://bird.network.cz/" target="_blank">https://bird.network.cz/</a> ) for route server. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Although you might be starting small, automate everything from day 1. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Rubens</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 8:34 AM Leandro Roggerone <<a href="mailto:leandro@tecnetmza.com.ar" target="_blank">leandro@tecnetmza.com.ar</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Buen día, mi nombre es Leandro . de Mendoza Argentina.<br>Escribo para consultar por algun appliance / soft recomendado para utilizar en el diseño de nuestro primer punto de intercambio.<br>Actualmente cuento con un switch Arista con muy buena capacidad de puertos.<br>Lo que no tengo definido es como armar el route server. <br>Pronto comenzaré a analizar propuestas de software libre como quagga , bird , exabgp y frr.<br>Desde ya les agradezco cualquier aporte que puedan brindarme con respecto a este tema.<div>Muchas gracias,</div><div>Leandro.</div></div><div id="gmail-m_-2317643347731247164gmail-m_2727428889246255841gmail-m_-3680151801905791800gmail-m_7187819102479146745gmail-m_-7035276478855784450gmail-m_-797997913160729565gmail-m_-1607647461580740832gmail-m_5810411130972339848gmail-m_-7939924157735065615DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br> <table style="border-top:1px solid rgb(211,212,222)">
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