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1. Re: Diseño de mi primer punto de intercambio ip.<br>
(Lucas Willian Bocchi)<br>
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Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 11:09:37 -0300<br>
From: Lucas Willian Bocchi <<a href="mailto:lucas.bocchi@gmail.com" target="_blank">lucas.bocchi@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Latin America and Caribbean Region Network Operators Group<br>
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Subject: Re: [lacnog] Diseño de mi primer punto de intercambio ip.<br>
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<br>
Luiz Gustavo<br>
And I say as route-server too. You won't know what people do to won't have<br>
any preocupation to buy or use a hardware to do a correct job.<br>
<br>
When I ask to you data that confirm your affirmations, I say that because,<br>
as I know, obviously, the majority of people using quagga/frr, not bird.<br>
See: you have sayed that IX.br use bird but when I connect to these<br>
route-servers I see only quagga.<br>
<br>
telnet <a href="http://lg.sp.ptt.br" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lg.sp.ptt.br</a><br>
Trying 200.160.6.199...<br>
Connected to <a href="http://lg.sp.ix.br" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lg.sp.ix.br</a>.<br>
Escape character is '^]'.<br>
==============================================<br>
= IX.br de Sao Paulo/SP =<br>
= Contact: <a href="mailto:eng@ix.br" target="_blank">eng@ix.br</a> =<br>
= +55 11 5509-3550 =<br>
= =<br>
= =<br>
= Looking Glass Server =<br>
= All connections and keystrokes logged =<br>
==============================================<br>
<a href="http://lg.sp.ptt.br" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lg.sp.ptt.br</a>> show ip bgp summary<br>
BGP router identifier 187.16.222.252, local AS number 263044<br>
RIB entries 266105, using 24 MiB of memory<br>
Peers 8, using 36 KiB of memory<br>
Dampening enabled.<br>
<br>
Neighbor V AS MsgRcvd MsgSent TblVer InQ OutQ Up/Down<br>
State/PfxRcd<br>
187.16.216.253 4 26162 46101537 1851723 0 0 0 04w5d23h<br>
150740<br>
187.16.216.254 4 26162 44606171 1851158 0 0 0 08w5d20h<br>
150418<br>
187.16.223.253 4 26162 41904613 1851010 0 0 0 06w0d23h<br>
150304<br>
187.16.223.254 4 26162 45010457 1851243 0 0 0 04w5d23h<br>
150675<br>
<br>
Total number of neighbors 4<br>
<a href="http://lg.sp.ptt.br" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lg.sp.ptt.br</a>> show<br>
bgp BGP information<br>
history Display the session command history<br>
ip IP information<br>
ipv6 IP information<br>
logging Show current logging configuration<br>
memory Memory statistics<br>
thread Thread information<br>
version Displays zebra version<br>
work-queues Work Queue information<br>
<a href="http://lg.sp.ptt.br" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lg.sp.ptt.br</a>> show version<br>
Quagga 0.99.20.1 (<a href="http://lg.sp.ptt.br" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lg.sp.ptt.br</a>).<br>
Copyright 1996-2005 Kunihiro Ishiguro, et al.<br>
<a href="http://lg.sp.ptt.br" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lg.sp.ptt.br</a>><br>
IX.br uses quagga, including in Curitiba<br>
<br>
telnet <a href="http://lg.pr.ptt.br" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lg.pr.ptt.br</a><br>
Trying 200.238.132.29...<br>
Connected to <a href="http://lg.pr.ix.br" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lg.pr.ix.br</a>.<br>
Escape character is '^]'.<br>
==============================================<br>
= IX.br de Curitiba/PR =<br>
= Contact: <a href="mailto:eng@ix.br" target="_blank">eng@ix.br</a> =<br>
= +55 11 5509-3550 =<br>
= =<br>
= =<br>
= Looking Glass Server =<br>
= All connections and keystrokes logged =<br>
==============================================<br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://lg.pr.ix.br" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lg.pr.ix.br</a>> show version<br>
Quagga 0.99.24.1 (<a href="http://lg.pr.ix.br" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lg.pr.ix.br</a>).<br>
Copyright 1996-2005 Kunihiro Ishiguro, et al.<br>
configured with:<br>
--build=x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --includedir=${prefix}/include<br>
--mandir=${prefix}/share/man --infodir=${prefix}/share/info<br>
--sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --disable-silent-rules<br>
--libexecdir=${prefix}/lib/quagga --disable-maintainer-mode<br>
--disable-dependency-tracking<br>
--enable-exampledir=/usr/share/doc/quagga/examples/<br>
--localstatedir=/var/run/quagga --sbindir=/usr/lib/quagga<br>
--sysconfdir=/etc/quagga --enable-vtysh --enable-isisd --enable-watchquagga<br>
--enable-ospf-te --enable-opaque-lsa --enable-ipv6 --enable-ospfclient=yes<br>
--enable-ospfapi=yes --enable-multipath=64 --enable-user=quagga<br>
--enable-group=quagga --enable-vty-group=quaggavty<br>
--enable-configfile-mask=0640 --enable-logfile-mask=0640 --enable-rtadv<br>
--enable-gcc-rdynamic --enable-pimd --with-libpam CFLAGS=-g -O2 -fPIE<br>
-fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security<br>
CPPFLAGS=-Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 CXXFLAGS=-g -O2 -fPIE<br>
-fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security FCFLAGS=-g -O2<br>
-fPIE -fstack-protector-strong FFLAGS=-g -O2 -fPIE -fstack-protector-strong<br>
GCJFLAGS=-g -O2 -fPIE -fstack-protector-strong<br>
LDFLAGS=-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -fPIE -pie -Wl,-z,relro -Wl,-z,now<br>
OBJCFLAGS=-g -O2 -fPIE -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat<br>
-Werror=format-security OBJCXXFLAGS=-g -O2 -fPIE -fstack-protector-strong<br>
-Wformat -Werror=format-security<br>
<a href="http://lg.pr.ix.br" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lg.pr.ix.br</a>><br>
<br>
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Em qui., 1 de abr. de 2021 às 11:02, Luiz Gustavo <<a href="mailto:luizgb@gmail.com" target="_blank">luizgb@gmail.com</a>><br>
escreveu:<br>
<br>
> Hi Lucas,<br>
><br>
> Just to be clear. I am talking about IXP infrastructure and not the<br>
> participant. I said Bird is the choice for the majority of IXPs for route<br>
> server, which is not related to what the participant decides to use (MK,<br>
> Juniper, Huawei, Cisco, etc...).<br>
> For example: IX.br, DE-CIX, AMS-IX, LINX, they all use Bird for their<br>
> route servers.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Att.<br>
> Luiz Gustavo Barros<br>
> UEPG<br>
><br>
><br>
> Em qui., 1 de abr. de 2021 às 10:29, Lucas Willian Bocchi <<br>
> <a href="mailto:lucas.bocchi@gmail.com" target="_blank">lucas.bocchi@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>
><br>
>> Leandro<br>
>><br>
>> FRR already have RPKI / IXP Manager Support.<br>
>> And, as far I know, the people are using more MIKROTIK, juniper, huawey<br>
>> solutions on BGP. In open-source environment, I glad if you can send any<br>
>> documentation that can confirm your affirmations.<br>
>><br>
>> Em qui., 1 de abr. de 2021 às 10:22, Luiz Gustavo <<a href="mailto:luizgb@gmail.com" target="_blank">luizgb@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> escreveu:<br>
>><br>
>>> Hi Leandro,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I am a tech lead of an IXP in southern Brazil and at the beginning of<br>
>>> our operation I also had some questions about how to start it.<br>
>>> As Rubens said, you may start with IXP Manager which covers 90% of use<br>
>>> cases (maybe 100% when you are starting). It includes a default template<br>
>>> for Bird which implements a lot of well-known best practices and route<br>
>>> filtering. I also recommend using Bird v2 which have RPKI support. I also<br>
>>> preferred a "cisco-like" interface, but for a route server Bird is the<br>
>>> choice for the majority of IXPs. It just takes some time to get used to its<br>
>>> commands.<br>
>>> You may check MANRS IXP Programme [1] to to start your operation<br>
>>> foreseeing to comply with the good practices that the initiative recommends.<br>
>>><br>
>>> [1] <a href="https://www.manrs.org/ixps/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.manrs.org/ixps/</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Att.<br>
>>> Luiz Gustavo Barros<br>
>>> UEPG<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Em qui., 1 de abr. de 2021 às 09:59, Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@gmail.com" target="_blank">rubensk@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> escreveu:<br>
>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> It was supposed to be in but it was indeed delayed. But while it's not<br>
>>>> multithreaded as of now 2021 April 1st, it's coming real soon.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> And when coupled with support of automated config from IXP Manager,<br>
>>>> choosing Bird v2 is still my suggestion. Besides IX's with 1000+ members,<br>
>>>> non mutlithreaded will get you far for the time being.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Rubens<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 9:54 AM Lucas Willian Bocchi <<br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:lucas.bocchi@gmail.com" target="_blank">lucas.bocchi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> Rubens<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> At least thread that I follow<br>
>>>>> <a href="https://bird.network.cz/pipermail/bird-users/2020-January/014161.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bird.network.cz/pipermail/bird-users/2020-January/014161.html</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I won't see any notice that it's released a multithread version.<br>
>>>>> On NEWS file on git<br>
>>>>> <a href="https://gitlab.nic.cz/labs/bird/-/blob/master/NEWS" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gitlab.nic.cz/labs/bird/-/blob/master/NEWS</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I won't see anything too. If you know anything different, please<br>
>>>>> advise me!!! I really won't see any news about multithread support on bird.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Em qui., 1 de abr. de 2021 às 09:40, Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@gmail.com" target="_blank">rubensk@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>> escreveu:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Are you saying BIRDv2 is not multithreaded ?<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Rubens<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 8:45 AM Lucas Willian Bocchi <<br>
>>>>>> <a href="mailto:lucas.bocchi@gmail.com" target="_blank">lucas.bocchi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Su puedo ayudar, un software más "cisco-like" y multithread (bird,<br>
>>>>>>> hasta el momiento, no eres) es<br>
>>>>>>> <a href="https://frrouting.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://frrouting.org/</a><br>
>>>>>>> Pero bird eres muy bueno también.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Em qui., 1 de abr. de 2021 às 08:39, Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@gmail.com" target="_blank">rubensk@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>> escreveu:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> <a href="https://www.ixpmanager.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ixpmanager.org/</a> for overall management and Bird v2<br>
>>>>>>>> (2.0.8 as of today, <a href="https://bird.network.cz/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bird.network.cz/</a> ) for route server.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Although you might be starting small, automate everything from day<br>
>>>>>>>> 1.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Rubens<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 8:34 AM Leandro Roggerone <<br>
>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:leandro@tecnetmza.com.ar" target="_blank">leandro@tecnetmza.com.ar</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Buen día, mi nombre es Leandro . de Mendoza Argentina.<br>
>>>>>>>>> Escribo para consultar por algun appliance / soft recomendado para<br>
>>>>>>>>> utilizar en el diseño de nuestro primer punto de intercambio.<br>
>>>>>>>>> Actualmente cuento con un switch Arista con muy buena capacidad de<br>
>>>>>>>>> puertos.<br>
>>>>>>>>> Lo que no tengo definido es como armar el route server.<br>
>>>>>>>>> Pronto comenzaré a analizar propuestas de software libre como<br>
>>>>>>>>> quagga , bird , exabgp y frr.<br>
>>>>>>>>> Desde ya les agradezco cualquier aporte que puedan brindarme con<br>
>>>>>>>>> respecto a este tema.<br>
>>>>>>>>> Muchas gracias,<br>
>>>>>>>>> Leandro.<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
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