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<p>Hola Tomas<br>
<br>
No creo que sea una buena idea por la siguiente razón.<br>
<br>
En algún momento, AfriNic ganará este litigio y podrá recuperar
todas las direcciones utilizadas fuera de las políticas actuales
de lo RIR.<br>
Como la propuesta de RPKI AS0 también fue aprobada allí, AfriNic
firmará automáticamente ROA con AS0 esta dirección hasta que sea
distribuida nuevamente a otros miembros que realmente necesiten
desarrollar Internet en el continente africano.<br>
<br>
Si la comunidad empieza a filtrar estas direcciones, seguramente
muchos se olvidarán y cuando se asignen a nuevos miembros puede
haber problemas de comunicación para estos miembros.<br>
<span class="VIiyi" lang="es"><span class="JLqJ4b ChMk0b"
data-language-for-alternatives="es"
data-language-to-translate-into="pt" data-phrase-index="10"><span>Similar
a lo que se hace hoy, en mi opinión, hoy se hace
erróneamente con 240.0.0.0/4.</span></span></span> <br>
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<p>Saludos<br>
Fernando Frediani<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29/08/2021 16:02, Tomas Lynch wrote:<br>
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comunidad de internet filtra esos prefijos estilo bogon?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 1:09
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<p>Hola todos<br>
<br>
A continuación se muestra una declaración de John Curran,
CEO de ARIN, que explica de manera muy clara y objetiva el
caso en disputa en AfriNic.<br>
Es importante que todos los que sigan el área de recursos
de numeración comprendan la gravedad de este ataque contra
AfriNic y de alguna manera demuestren su apoyo para que el
RIR pueda reanudar sus actividades con normalidad.<br>
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<div>En los últimos tiempos, los signos de mal uso indebido
del direccionamiento IP para actividades como alquilar por
ejemplo ha aumentado y es importante apoyar a los RIRs en
el proceso de revisión del uso para las asignaciones
existentes, lo que garantiza que siempre esté en línea con
las políticas actuales y el contrato firmado previamente.</div>
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<div>Saludos<br>
Fernando</div>
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<td>[arin-ppml] AFRINIC And The Stability Of The
Internet Number Registry System</td>
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<td>John Curran <a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><jcurran@arin.net></a></td>
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<div>ARIN Community - </div>
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<div>In response to questions about the dispute in the
AFRINIC region, please refer to the following article
(link and text attached below – </div>
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<div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span><<a
href="https://teamarin.net/2021/08/27/afrinic-and-the-stability-of-the-internet-number-registry-system/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://teamarin.net/2021/08/27/afrinic-and-the-stability-of-the-internet-number-registry-system/</a>></div>
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<div>FYI,</div>
<div>/John</div>
<div><br>
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<div>
<div>John Curran</div>
<div>President and CEO</div>
<div>American Registry for Internet Numbers</div>
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<div><br>
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<div>August 27, 2021</div>
<div><br>
AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number
Registry System<br>
<br>
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<div>By John Curran - President and CEO, American Registry
for Internet Numbers, Ltd. (ARIN)<br>
<br>
As many in the community are aware, the Regional
Internet Registry (RIR) that serves Africa (AFRINIC) has
been involved in litigation with a company known as
“Cloud Innovation” operating out of the Seychelles and
under control of an individual named Lu Heng (who
resides primarily in Hong Kong.) Disputes between RIRs
and their customers do occur from time to time, and it
is best that such disputes are resolved within that RIR,
its community, and/or the applicable legal and courts
system if necessary. <br>
<br>
ARIN does not normally comment on disputes or related
litigation occurring at another RIR, but this matter has
become quite different, as it is both highly public and
has potential for significant impact to the overall
stability of the Internet number registry system and
thus to ARIN and its community. Therefore, I address the
ARIN community to provide insight into the nature of
the dispute, to highlight some troublesome aspects of
the ongoing litigation, and finally to reiterate ARIN’s
unwavering support to AFRINIC and the African networking
community. <br>
<br>
The Dispute and Litigation</div>
<div><br>
In 2020, AFRINIC completed a registry audit to confirm
that number resources were properly reflected in the
registry; and as a result, determined that it required
additional information from Cloud Innovation regarding
its utilization of previously issued Internet number
resources. This sort of resource review is not uncommon
among the RIRs, and ARIN has its own resource review
process that is similar in nature. Upon reviewing the
information provided by Cloud Innovation, AFRINIC
determined that the resources were not being utilized
for the purposes for which they were issued and noted
that they would be revoked (after a suitable time to
allow customer migration off those resources.) Mr. Lu
and his businesses disputed AFRINIC’s authority to
enforce this provision of its customer agreement and
instead engaged in several legal actions in the courts
in Mauritius to prevent having to return the address
blocks to AFRINIC. <br>
<br>
As noted earlier, normally disputes are routine in
nature and are generally best resolved by the individual
RIR, its community, and/or the applicable legal &
courts system. However, among the motions that Cloud
Innovation has made is one that currently freezes
AFRINIC’s accounts and thus has the potential to hamper
AFRINIC’s operations and ability to serve both
the community in Africa as well as the global community
that relies upon the Internet number registry system.
ARIN takes stability of the Internet number registry
system very seriously; and considering this risk, we are
compelled to provide this update to the ARIN community
as it needs to be aware of these developments and
potential implications. I must also share some of ARIN’s
knowledge related to this matter as it informs and
directs our stance going forward. <br>
<br>
Prior Dealings with ARIN </div>
<div><br>
ARIN has first-hand experience and insight into Mr. Lu’s
business practices in seeking IP number resources. Mr.
Lu, through Cloud Innovation, Ltd., received 6.2 million
IPv4 addresses from AFRINIC in four different
installments[1]; however, it is worth noting that in
2013,Mr. Lu, through his company Outside Heaven, Ltd.,
also approached and sought over one million
IPv4 addresses from ARIN. ARIN ultimately refused to
provide any resources to him and his business for two
main reasons: First, during the review of his
application to justify the provision of Internet number
resources, Mr. Lu refused to provide ARIN with
information that was repeatedly requested on a number of
occasions; and second, the information provided by Mr.
Lu was misleading and inconsistent. In addition, Mr. Lu
had no meaningful business establishment in the ARIN
region; and based on his own representations, it was
clear the intended use of the IPv4 addresses—if they
were issued—was for business activities outside the ARIN
service region. Given the seriousness of potentially
false statements made to ARIN to obtain
number resources, ARIN attempted to engage in
appropriate due diligence with which Mr. Lu
was unwilling to cooperate. ARIN refused his
application for IPv4 number resources.<br>
<br>
Use of the AFRINIC Resources Out of Africa</div>
<div><br>
ARIN has reviewed the utilization of the number resource
blocks issued by AFRINIC to Cloud Innovation and
determined that the overwhelming majority of the
approximately 6.2 million IP addresses issued have not
been used within the African continent. While there are
cases of entire address blocks being routed from an ISP
in South Africa, Cloud Innovation also has
announced more specific routes from ISPs in Hong Kong
and the United States. Because more
specific announcements take routing precedence, this
rendered the routing announcement at the South African
ISP moot and resulted in the vast majority of the
traffic usage being outside of Africa. Such a result is
not surprising as Cloud Innovation has indicated that
they predominantly “lease” the IP address space to other
parties rather than utilize it to provide connectivity
services directly.<br>
<br>
It is apparent that Cloud Innovation’s use of the issued
number resources is not being used for the purpose for
which they were issued; and as such, it appears that
AFRINIC is within its rights per the registration
services agreement to reclaim them so that they may be
used for the benefit of the African community. This is
among the issues that will need to be considered by
the Mauritian court, as well as whether there was fraud
in the inception of the contractual process when the
resources were issued. Because AFRINIC is directly
involved in the litigation, it has quite properly
limited its public comments on the ongoing litigation
with Mr. Lu and his companies. However, Mr. Lu, and
parties related to Mr. Lu, have not limited their
actions to the courts and have maintained a steady
stream of confusing and inconsistent misinformation to
the public that apparently distorts the issues to cast
AFRINIC in a most unfavorable light. Neither the AFRINIC
nor the ARIN communities should expect a quick answer
from the courts, but it will ultimately yield a ruling.
In the interim, as procedural motions are being sorted
out, the community should not make judgements about the
court proceeding until the substantive issues are
addressed. <br>
<br>
Joint RIR Stability Fund </div>
<div><br>
The RIRs have committed to mutual assistance, in kind
and financial, to ensure operational continuity of the
Internet number registry system; and in 2015, the RIRs
established a Joint RIR Stability Fund as a prudent
contingency measure towards long-term Internet number
registry stability. The Fund has been established
through voluntary pledges of funds from individual RIRs’
reserves, and upon an RIR’s duly submitted request for
support from the Stability Fund, the funds may be made
available to support that RIR’s registry and policy
development activities. There is in excess of $2M USD of
financial support collectively pledged from the RIRs for
this purpose; and in addition, support can also be
provided in-kind (e.g., through operational staff for
support of operational activities if needed.) <br>
<br>
If AFRINIC requests support in accordance with the Joint
RIR Stability Fund, ARIN will support such a request.
Furthermore, and without reservation, ARIN stands by its
unwavering commitment to support AFRINIC and will take
any and all measures necessary to ensure that neither
the African networking community, nor the global
Internet number registry system, is operationally
impacted during this period. AFRINIC was formed (and has
accomplished so much) for the benefit of the African
networking community and ARIN stands with the community
in dealing with those who seek to disrupt or exploit it
for their own benefit.<br>
<br>
[1] <br>
<br>
<a href="http://154.80.0.0/12" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">154.80.0.0/12</a> (Issued
07/24/2013)<br>
<br>
<a href="http://45.192.0.0/12" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">45.192.0.0/12</a> (Issued
12/1/2014)<br>
<br>
<a href="http://156.224.0.0/11" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">156.224.0.0/11</a> (Issued
12/22/2015)<br>
<br>
<a href="http://154.192.0.0/11" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">154.192.0.0/11</a> (Issued
09/16/2016)<br>
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