[LAC-TF] Fw: [tf-sc] IPv6 Forum Task Forces {01}

Thu May 20 05:56:56 BRT 2004

Hi all, 

See my email below FYI.

I think cooperation is a must, but keeping the independence. As said is only my opinion, but I know other people has the same view, at least in EU.

Being "associated" to the Forum, if the "association" is clarified, should be fine, but may be we need to draft exactly what this means, what are the obligations and so on.

Regards,
Jordi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ" <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>
To: <members at ipv6forum.com>
Cc: <tf-sc at ipv6tf.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 10:45 AM
Subject: [tf-sc] IPv6 Forum Task Forces {01}

Hi Jim,

As you know, I've discussed this with Latif and you a couple of times, and asked to Latif to raise this question within the TFs long time ago.

I don't think this is clear. I know that several of the EU TFs (and others from the world also, but may be I'm wrong), don't have this idea.

Is not a question of being in favor or not about it, but my feeling is that, at least in the EU case, the TF was initiated by a different community (of course, some common members but not all), with different goals, and different structure. We never have been asked about this, and in my personal opinion, collaboration is very good, but not tying one organization to the other.

The IPv6 Forum works in a give way, while the EU TF works in another different way, and the structures are completely different.

I think it will be impossible to tell any of the TF members, unless all them accept it, "you are part of the IPv6 Forum", and consequently, you're subjected to the decisions of the IPv6 Forum (even if you aren't a member), while the TF expect to take the decision by their own.

May be the mistake has been not talking openly about this before, in any case, we should get the decision of each of the TF, and that could mean that some say yes, some say not. I think if that's the case, then we could "break" the openness and volunteer cooperation of the TFs.

My personal opinion: All the people working pro-IPv6 should cooperate, but different organizations have different memberships and different structures and should not be "formally" or "legally" tied, not missing any degree of freedom.

I also understand perfectly the case of the NAv6TF, as you explained me the motivations for that, but those don't apply to the rest of the TFs.

Regards,
Jordi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bound, Jim" <jim.bound at hp.com>
To: <members at ipv6forum.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 4:54 AM
Subject: IPv6 Forum Task Forces

Members,

It has come to my attention that there is some confusion.  All IPv6 Task
Forces are sub-task-forces of the IPv6 Forum.  

Is that clear to everyone or not?

I assumed we all agreed on this completely.  I know most Task Forces do
but it appears a few individuals are making noises that they are
separate from the IPv6 Forum.

If they are then they should not be able to use the IPv6 Forum Logo, the
volunteers world wide the IPv6 Forum, provides and all benefits from the
IPv6 Forum, beginning with our support from this worldwide Forum.

I believe this is mostly just misguided politics and the egoes of some
individuals and not representative of any Task Force body we are aware
of at this time.

The last thing we need at this time is a split by over zealous egoes
that have forgotten about the greater good and more involved with
themselves.

I can speak clearly that NAv6TF is a total sub-task force of the IPv6
Forum.

Regards,
/jim

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