<div dir="ltr">Estoy deacuerdo con el problema que se tiene con el usuario final, aunque se cuenten con los diferentes mecanismos de transicion.<br><br>Saludos<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/8/20 Nicolas Antoniello <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nantoniello@gmail.com" target="_blank">nantoniello@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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Estimados,<div><br></div><div>Concuerdo con Roque y agrego que no debemos olvidarnos que (en mi opinión y basado en mi experiencia) que la parte "fácil" de todo esto es implementarlo del lado del ISP y la parte "difícil" es la de llegar al cliente... es decir, como dice Roque, lo que va sobre ese sistema operativo y también la importancia de que los equipos domésticos soporten IPv6. Me refiero no solo a los terminales, sino que hay en día el tener un router domestico (para acceso inalámbrico por ejemplo) es algo bastante común pero en general estos equipos carecen de soporte del protocolo IPv6 (incluso carecen de soporte básico como puede ser el de la configuración estática de un prefijo IPv6 y/o auto-configuración). Si bien es cierto que existen hacks bien conocidos para algunas marcas bien conocidas, creo que aun hay camino para recorrer (y básico) del lado del usuario final.</div>
<div>Creo que no debemos preocuparnos tanto del backbone, en el cual hay gente capacitada y soporte por parte de los equipos sino de capacitar a los usuarios de la "ultima milla" y de lograr aplicaciones que aprovechen las ventajas de IPv6. En mi opinión es allí donde esta el gran obstáculo a sortear.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Saludos,</div><div>Nicolas.</div><div><br><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On 20/08/2008, at 02:45 PM, Roque Gagliano wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">Fabian,<div><br></div><div>Lo que tu mencionas es el caso particular de Cisco IOS y en especial en equipos de mediano y pequeño porte donde tienes que comprar una licencia "advance internet services" o "ip/plus", pero no es mi experiencia con Cisco XR, Alcatel, Juniper, FreeBSD, Linux, Windows Vista. En todos estos casos el sistema operativo sí inlcuye por defecto soporte IPv6. Es más si deseas que in 7200 o 3800 Cisco implemente determinados features modernos, IPv6 va a venir incluido en la actualizacion pues vas a necesitar . Entonces creo que el costo en el sistema operativo, como "add-on" es practicamente nulo si quieres manternerte "al dia" con los mismos.</div>
<div><br></div><div>El problema es lo que va sobre el sistema operativo, eso es lo que va a tomar tiempo. Estoy hablando de los softwares que deben correr sobre el stack IPv6 o que manipulan direcciones IPv6. Y esto sólos van a actualizarse con el uso de los mismos.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>slds</div><div>r.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 20, 2008, at 1:03 PM, Fabián R. Mejía M. wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Bayardo<br><br>Me refiero a los costos que implica actualizar un software only IPv4 a uno <br>
IPv4/IPv6, que desde mi punto de vista constituyen una limitante para una <br>implementación "masiva a corto plazo" de IPv6. Evidentemente si hoy los <br>presupuestos no dan se lo hará luego, pero ese retraso es lo que me <br>
preocupa. Por otra parte, hay la opción de software libre como se ha <br>mencionado por aquí, pero me quedo con el llamado de atención a Cisco y con <br>el sueño de tener IPv6 desde las versiones básicas de su sistema opertaivo <br>
IOS.<br><br>Saludos,<br><br>Fabián Mejía<br>AEPROVI<br><a href="http://www.aeprovi.org.ec" target="_blank">www.aeprovi.org.ec</a><br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Bayardo Rivas" <<a href="mailto:bayardo.rivas@puntos.org.ni" target="_blank">bayardo.rivas@puntos.org.ni</a>><br>
To: <<a href="mailto:lactf@lac.ipv6tf.org" target="_blank">lactf@lac.ipv6tf.org</a>><br>Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 4:17 PM<br>Subject: Re: [LAC-TF] Resolucion emitida recientemente de apoyo alIPv6 <br>enCuba<br>
<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Fabián:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Podes aclararme a que te refieres exactamente con "....costos de<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
actualización de software"????. De qué tipo de software estas hablando???.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Aprovecho la oportunidad (no sé si vale la pena abrir otro hilo o ya se<br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite">dió la discusión). Es posible pensar la resolución de algunas<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">necesidades técnicas con sistemas open source, y en este caso me refiero<br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">a señores como: Solaris, Free BSD y algunos Linux con soporte corporativo.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Saludos,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Bayardo Rivas.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Fabián R. Mejía M. escribió:<br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hola nuevamente<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Lo de los presupuestos se aplica a nuevos proyectos, y estoy totalmente <br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">de<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">acuerdo, pero a lo que me refiero es a los equipos que ya están <br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">funcionando<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">pero no tienen soporte IPv6.<br></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">En todo lo que respecta a los beneficios del nuevo protocolo estamos de<br></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">acuerdo y por ello estoy trabajando para incentivar su adopción temprana <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">en<br></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">lugar de esperar a comprar equipo nuevo cuando ya no haya otra <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">alternativa y<br></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">estemos retrasados.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
Lo que intento es exponerles una limitante para la adopción temprana de <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">IPv6<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
(al menos en Ecuador):<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">por acá el soporte IPv6 es limitado y se requiere actualizar mucho <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">software<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">lo cual se traducirá finalmente en un monto de dinero considerable.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">Nosotros como la asociación de proveedores ecuatorianos queremos hacer <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">algo<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">para reducir estos costos y quería saber si a nivel regional se da algo<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">parecido, quería conocer que han hecho y hacer volumen porque lo que<br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">pregunta Cisco es ¿de cuanto es el proyecto?.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">En todo caso estamos buscando el rumbo hacia a adopción temprana de IPv6,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">por lo cual estamos en el trabajo de eliminar barreras como los costos de<br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">actualización de software.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">Saludos,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Fabián Mejía<br></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">AEPROVI<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.aeprovi.org.ec" target="_blank">www.aeprovi.org.ec</a><br></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Saludos,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Fabián Mejía<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">AEPROVI<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.aeprovi.org.ec" target="_blank">www.aeprovi.org.ec</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">----- Original Message ----- <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">From: "Bayardo Rivas" <<a href="mailto:bayardo.rivas@puntos.org.ni" target="_blank">bayardo.rivas@puntos.org.ni</a>><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">To: <<a href="mailto:lactf@lac.ipv6tf.org" target="_blank">lactf@lac.ipv6tf.org</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:42 PM<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Subject: Re: [LAC-TF] Resolucion emitida recientemente de apoyo alIPv6<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">enCuba<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hola Hebert,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Tu mensaje es un excelente primer mensaje que intenta desempacar los<br></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">beneficios de IPv6 en un lenguaje coloquial. Ahora, lo que tenemos que<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">trabajar es hacer públicos estos beneficios y si ya existen sitios que<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
recopilan las experiencias positivas del IPv6 en el sentido social, es<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">necesario que los divulguemos y promocionemos.<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
En Nicaragua tuvimos la oportunidad de estar conectados e I2 a través de<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">CLARA si mal no recuerdo. Después de cierto período ese proyecto<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">finalizó a pesar de las inversiones realizadas. Uno de los motivos que<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">puedo recordar es que los niveles mas altos de toma de decisión en las<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">instituciones académicas no lograron identificar los beneficios de I2,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">mucho menos de lo que sería IPv6. Quizas fue falta de pericia en las<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">personas que participamos en el proyecto, pero definitivamente la parte<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">política era una debilidad y se tradujo en ese resultado de cierre del<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">proyecto.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">Con respecto a IPv6... me gustaría que pudieramos demostrar que vale la<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">pena hacerlo, pero necesitamos los recursos que ayuden a tomar<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">conciencia para sumarse al proceso. A como dije en mi primer parrafo, si<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">existen sitios que recopilan esa información de migraciones, estudios,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">análisis costo-beneficio, impacto en sociedad y economías, espero que<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">los podamos compartir... y quizas recopilar en algún lugar de LACNIC.<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
Saludos y gracias.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">Bayardo Rivas.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">Hebert Osvaldo Dueñas del Toro escribió:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Que tal a todos,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Sobre el comentario de Fabián, de los costos:<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Como bien lo señala la mayor parte del equipo es Cisco y los costos<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">pueden variar por el licenciamiento, pero hay otras marcas en el<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">mercado con una buena experiencia en la implementación de IPv6 en su<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
hardware, ejemplos hay varios ya conocidos.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Algo que me parece importante señalar e intentar argumentar, es la<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">parte del beneficio a los usuarios, "¿cómo le beneficia esto al<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">cliente?, al común usuario que simplemente quiere que su servicio<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">funcione y no quiere adentrarse en la parte técnica":<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Bien identifico dos partes sobre esto, una el beneficio para el<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">usuario y segunda el beneficio para el operador o proveedor de <br></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">servicio.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
Es evidente que al usuario no le importa la parte técnica, pero en<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">cambio, le interesan las caracteristicas de el servicio que contrata,<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">características, tales como la calidad en el servicio, la variedad de<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">los servicio, la movilidad, cantidad de dispositivos, entre otras<br></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">muchas más.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
Para el operador representa una gran oportunidad en la parte<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">económica, ya que gracias a las opciones que ofrece IPv6, puede<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">también generar mayores ingresos, en base a, dejar de ser un simple<br></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">provedor de acceso y hacer una transición a un operador que oferte<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">servicios, que cree servicios nuevos, todo sobre la convergencia voz,<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">datos y video, al final puede crear los servicios multimedia para<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">ofertarlos al usuario. Y entre más servicios se creen, crecera la<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">cantidad de dispositivos y de usuarios, lo cual es una simple y<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">contundente razón para el uso de IPv6 y, como anteriormente lo he<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">dicho existen muchas más razones para comenzar a adoptar a IPv6.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Creo que existen muchos beneficios tanto para operadores como para los<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">usuarios, solo hace falta ser concientes de las oportunidades tanto de<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">desarrollo tecnológico como económicas que otorga la implementación de<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">IPv6, para el mundo, y sobre todo la gran oportunidad para nuestra<br></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">región.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
Saludos<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hebert Dueñas<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">El 19 de agosto de 2008 10:42, Fabián R. Mejía M.<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:mejiaf@aeprovi.org.ec" target="_blank">mejiaf@aeprovi.org.ec</a> <<a href="mailto:mejiaf@aeprovi.org.ec" target="_blank">mailto:mejiaf@aeprovi.org.ec</a>>> escribió:<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Hola a todos<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Hay algo en el comentario de Jorge que me gustaría se debata más<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> en esta lista:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"> ... "El equipamiento IPv4/IPv6 no es mucho mas caro que el<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
equipamiento "IPv4 only", es solo cuestion de saber seleccionar." <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
...<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Tengo la experiencia de que en Cisco lo anterior no es tan cierto,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> el sistema operativo IOS cuesta muchísimo más si tiene soporte<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> para IPv6. El hardware tiene el mismo número de interfaces,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"> procesador, memoria, etc, pero si quiero darle soporte IPv6 debo<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
pagar un par de miles de dólares adicionales (hablo de equipos de<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
core). Si consideramos que debo actualizar no un equipo sino<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> varios, la cuenta sube sustancialmente.<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Si los proveedores pasarían este costo adicional a los clientes,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> el mismo servicio sería más caro solo por el hecho de tener<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"> soporte IPv6. Aquí aplica el comentario de Bayardo, ¿cómo le<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
beneficia esto al cliente?, al común usuario que simplemente<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> quiere que su servicio funcione y no quiere adentrarse en la parte<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> técnica.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
Si no quiero pagar el costo adicional hay 2 opciones:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> 1. Comprar equipos de otra marca, pero Cisco está muy bien<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> posicionado en nuestro mercado y la mayor parte del<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> equipamiento de networking es Cisco. Cambiar de marca igual<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> implica un costo adicional.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> 2. Piratear el IOS. Esta es la alternativa que muchos siguen,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> pero sé que Cisco está trabajando en mejorar su<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> licenciamiento y en algún momento no se podrá actualizar el<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> software tan fácilmente. Además, al menos a mi,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"> me gusta hacer las cosas correctamente y deberíamos<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
respectar los derechos de autor.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> En mi país (Ecuador) estamos trabajando mucho por reducir los<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> costos del servicio de Internet, pero el hecho de tener costos<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> adicionales por el soporte IPv6 es una limitante que por ahora le<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> pone a un lado a la migración.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Hemos buscado apertura de Cisco para reducir costos, pero la<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> primera pregunta es: ¿DE CUANTO ES EL PROYECTO?, pero no tenemos<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> un costo fijo del proyecto, buscamos que el costo no sea tan alto<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> y que incentive o al menos no sea una limitante para la migración.<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> ¿Cuál es la experiencia sobre el tema de costos en otros países?,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> ¿hay opción de que LACNIC nos apoye para buscar disminir los<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> costos para toda la región?, así !el costo del proyecto (lo que<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"> pregunta Cisco) será mucho mayor y la reducción del costo más<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
significativa¡.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"> Saludos,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Fabián Mejía<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> AEPROVI<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <a href="http://www.aeprovi.org.ec" target="_blank">www.aeprovi.org.ec</a> <<a href="http://www.aeprovi.org.ec" target="_blank">http://www.aeprovi.org.ec</a>><br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> ----- Original Message -----<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> From: "Jorge Villa" <<a href="mailto:villa@reduniv.edu.cu" target="_blank">villa@reduniv.edu.cu</a><br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <<a href="mailto:villa@reduniv.edu.cu" target="_blank">mailto:villa@reduniv.edu.cu</a>>><br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> To: <<a href="mailto:lactf@lac.ipv6tf.org" target="_blank">lactf@lac.ipv6tf.org</a> <<a href="mailto:lactf@lac.ipv6tf.org" target="_blank">mailto:lactf@lac.ipv6tf.org</a>>><br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:43 AM<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Subject: Re: [LAC-TF] Resolucion emitida recientemente de apoyo al<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> IPv6 enCuba<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
Hola a tod@s <<a href="mailto:tod@s" target="_blank">mailto:tod@s</a>>, como estan?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
Entiendo las preocupaciones de Bayardo, porque en realidad las<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
experiencias<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">en cada pais son diferentes, y quizas su percepcion de la<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> realidad le lleva<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">a ese pensamiento, lo cual puede ser perfectamente valido.<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">IPv6 requiere de entender multiples aspectos, no solo los<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> problemas tecnicos<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">(que quizas sean los que mas claros estan), sino como puede<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> ayudar a que el<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">pais avance en determinadas areas. La realidad es que a<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
diferencia de IPv4<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">en que pueden señalarse tres momentos en cuanto a aplicaciones<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> (primero<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">E-Mail, luego Web y por ultimo todo lo Peer-to-Peer [eMule, <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Kazaa,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">BitTorrent, etc]), en IPv6 no existe lo que se conoce como una<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> "killer<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">application", y por tanto la idea es fomentar la innovacion a<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"> partir de las<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">potencialidades del nuevo protocolo.<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Con independencia de las caracteristicas economico-sociales de<br></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> cada pais,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">cada gobierno tiene posibilidades de influenciar o acelerar el<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> proceso. Si<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">los presupuestos gubernamentales para tecnologias (sean grandes,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> medianos o<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
pequeños) incluyen a IPv6 como un lineamiento para sus<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> propuestas, con<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">seguridad los proveedores de tecnologia y otras empresas<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> empezaran a tener<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">en cuenta que debe haber compatibilidad con IPv6, aunque no<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> envies un bit<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">con ese protocolo hasta dentro de 2 o 3 años, y el propio<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> proceso de<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">renovacion tecnologica tiene que ir creando esas capacidades en <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">las<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
distintas redes. Cualquier ISP en Nicaragua tiene equipamiento <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
IPv6<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">compatible (seguramente Cisco, Juniper, Extreme, Foundry, etc),<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> aunque a lo<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">mejor necesitan actualizar los IOS, pero no es una inversion<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> perdida.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Nuestros paises tienen gran escasez de recursos financieros,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> pero si cada<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">peso que tienes lo inviertes bien, entonces ganaste. El<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
equipamiento<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">IPv4/IPv6 no es mucho mas caro que el equipamiento "IPv4 only",<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> es solo<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">cuestion de saber seleccionar. A lo mejor en un router para una<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> escuela<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">rural no lo tienes en cuenta, pero podemos estar hablando de un<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> equipo de<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">50-100 dolares, pero en un core router de un ISP que vale miles<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"> de dolares,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">como no lo vas a tener en cuenta?<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Yo creo que si, que los gobiernos tienen que involucrarse en el<br></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> proceso<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">porque de ellos dependen varios sectores (asi como las<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> estrategias de<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">desarrollo de los paises); y si no han respondido a anteriores<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"> llamados, no<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">por ello se puede desistir de explicarselo nuevamente hasta que <br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">lo<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">entiendan. Es por eso que es fundamental lo que pueda suceder en<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> estas 2<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">reuniones que se estan convocando, como planteaba ayer Jesus, y<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> hay que<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
prestar gran atencion a sus resultados y posibles planes de <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
accion.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Saludos,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Jorge<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">----- Original Message -----<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
From: "Bayardo Rivas" <<a href="mailto:bayardo.rivas@puntos.org.ni" target="_blank">bayardo.rivas@puntos.org.ni</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <<a href="mailto:bayardo.rivas@puntos.org.ni" target="_blank">mailto:bayardo.rivas@puntos.org.ni</a>>><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">To: <<a href="mailto:lactf@lac.ipv6tf.org" target="_blank">lactf@lac.ipv6tf.org</a> <<a href="mailto:lactf@lac.ipv6tf.org" target="_blank">mailto:lactf@lac.ipv6tf.org</a>>><br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:01 PM<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Subject: Re: [LAC-TF] Resolucion emitida recientemente de apoyo<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> al IPv6 en<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Cuba<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
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Siguen las mismas preguntas en mi cabeza:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">1. Para que llamar a los gobiernos?? Hay resultados de los<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">llamados<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
anteriores??<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
2. Qué esperamos de los gobiernos?? Compromisos que no se <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
cumplan<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">o<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">pequeñas acciones que aporte mucho??<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">3. Cómo desempacamos (divulgamos coloquialmente) los beneficios<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">que<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">puedan despertar el interés que se necesita para estimular el<br></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> apoyo y<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">compromiso de trabajar en busca de la implementación de IPv6?<br></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Ya sé que me pueden recomendar algunas lecturas, pero la<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> verdad, estoy<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">haciendo de "abogado del diablo" y pregunto como cualquier<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> mortal que<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">necesita convencerse de por qué usar IPv6.... ojo...no aspectos<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
técnicos, sino los sociales que afectan la vida de las empresas,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">academias, personas, etc.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Saludos y gracias por aclararme estas dudas.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Bayardo Rivas<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Jesus Martinez escribió:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Amigos;<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Me alegra mucho el ver que la lista se ha movido, los<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> comentarios del<br></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Villa son muy certeros y fueron los argumentos que hemos <br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">siempre<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">utilizado pero verdaderamente no ha sido fácil el camino<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> recorrido y<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">mucho mas difícil es el camino por recorrer pues hay que mover <br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">a<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">muchas personas con disímiles de intereses y problemas. Las<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> pautas de<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">como comenzar están dadas en la resolución, armar los equipos <br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">de<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">trabajo que muevan todo el proceso es complejo y todo un reto.<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Como<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">otras veces hemos comentados, lo que mas se aproxima a este<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> que se no<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">viene encima es el esfuerzo realizado cuando el error del<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Milenio a<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">diferencia de que en aquel momento nunca supimos si era cierto<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> o no,<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">este, es una realidad para la cual debemos de prepararnos con<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> mucha<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">responsabilidad.<br></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">Hoy, LACNIC a vuelto a convocar y a debatir el tema en<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Montevideo,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">donde se reunen prestigiosas personalidades de la Región, que<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> muchos<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">de ellos no son tan técnicos como nosotros, pero que también<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> comparten<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">esa responsabilidad. Dos reuniones claves, Consulta de LACNIC<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> sobre<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">temas muy importantes donde el tema IPv6 está incluido.La otra<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
reunión, preparatoria de de la agenda del tercer Foro de<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Gobernanza de<br></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Internet, y el tema IPv6 será objeto de análisis. Llamo la<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> atención<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">pues considero que un resultado importante debe ser un llamado<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> a los<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Gobiernos (uno más), a prestar gran atención al proceso de<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">introducción del protocolo IPv6 en sus países.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Además, hago un llamado a seguir esta importante reunión por <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">los<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">mecanismos que LACNIC tiene implementados.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
Saludos a todos.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Jesús<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
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</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On 8/18/08, *Bayardo Rivas* <<a href="mailto:bayardo.rivas@puntos.org.ni" target="_blank">bayardo.rivas@puntos.org.ni</a><br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <<a href="mailto:bayardo.rivas@puntos.org.ni" target="_blank">mailto:bayardo.rivas@puntos.org.ni</a>><br>
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<<a href="mailto:bayardo.rivas@puntos.org.ni" target="_blank">mailto:bayardo.rivas@puntos.org.ni</a>>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Hola estimados:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Antes que nada felicito al gobierno cubano por sus logros.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
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</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"> Después de bastante tiempo de recibir los mensajes de la<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> lista, me<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> animo<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> por primera vez a comentar un poco sobre un hilo.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
Yo coincido con Jorge con respecto a las condiciones<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> favorables de<br></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Cuba<br></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"> para empujar procesos como estos a base de resoluciones. <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Sin<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> embargo, no<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> veo como en mi país Nicaragua sea posible. Aqui tenemos<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">varios<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> factores<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> no favorables: economía complicada, una situación politica<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"> complicada...<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> pero jalando mas hacia nuestros terreno de trabajo,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> tenemos menos<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> gente<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> informada sobre los pro y contras del cambio de <br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">tecnologías,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> protocolos,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
etc. En este aspecto considero que aunque los avances han<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> sido<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">grandes<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
en cuanto a migcrar a IPv6, todavía falta mucho por<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"> recorrer pero,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"> nuestro camino se hace mas dificil cuando los esfuerzos y<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> logros se<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> observan en aspectos técnicos unicamente. Mi experiencia<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> es que<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">cuando<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> se alcanza algo nuevo con IPv6, no logramos aterrizar lo<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> que eso<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> implica<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> en beneficio para los pueblos y países en desarrollo.<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Me encantaría poder preguntarle y compartir con esta lista<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">las<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> respuestas de diputados (congreso), empresarios e incluso<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> a los<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> académicos de las universidades de mi país si ellos<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> conocen de al<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> menos<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> dos beneficios SOCIALES que traería IPv6. Tengo la<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> impresión que<br></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> terminaríamos hablando una vez mas de enrutamiento, etc.<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Creo que se ha avanzado, pero tenemos muchas cosas<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> pendientes que<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> no son<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> precisamente las técnicas de enrutamiento,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> conectividad,etc. Para que<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> realmente los gobiernos, instituciones, empresas e incluso<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> personas<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> particulares empujemos a trabajar con IPv6 tenemos que<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> demostrar y<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> promover para que va a servir ese cambio, que va a<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> implicar en los<br></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> servicios y comunicaciones que utilizan, además, que<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">implica..<br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> .inversión en equipos, rrhh calificados, etc., etc., etc.<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Saludos,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Bayardo Rivas.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Nicaragua<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
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</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Jorge Villa escribió:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Azael, como estas? Creo que tu pregunta esta flotando<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> desde el<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> anterior<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">documento que habia circulado Jesus en la lista,<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> referido a la<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
anterior<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">resolucion cubana para el tema de la importacion de<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> tecnologias.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Mira, en realidad yo creo que este tipo de situaciones<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> tiene que<br></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> ver con la<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">voluntad y la claridad de los gobiernos respecto al tema <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">de<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> IPv6, tanto para<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">los propios paises, asi como en la region y en el mundo, <br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">y<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> entender las<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
ventajas y posibilidades que puede ofrecer. Es por eso<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"> que es<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
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