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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'>De hecho los creadores del NAP Lima son <span
class=SpellE>ISPs</span> más pequeños que se reunieron y conformaron este NAP,
con la intención de encontrar una forma conjunta y de costos compartidos, para
conectarse al NAP.Perú.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>No es un tema tanto
de empresas peruanas o empresas “extranjeras”, ya que ambas
instituciones reúnen a algunas empresas con matrices internacionales y ambas
tienen también proveedores de “nacionalidad” peruana.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'>La gran diferencia entre ambas es la actual
cobertura. Como sabemos el valor real de un NAP reside en la amplitud de redes
de contenidos y de usuarios Internet locales que cubre. Por la importancia de
los actuales operadores del NAP.Perú, esta red cubre más del 95% del Internet en
el Perú. Es por esta razón que los <span class=SpellE>ISPs</span> del <span
class=SpellE>NAP.Lima</span>, nos han solicitado mecanismos para poder hacer
peering con el NAP.Perú y justamente estamos en coordinaciones con ellos para
ofrecerles una alternativa viable.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'>Respecto a los costos del NAP.Perú, no
debemos confundir el tema de costos de interconexión con los de ASOCIACIÓN. Los
Asociados del NAP.Perú, quienes son virtuales “propietarios” de la
asociación y deciden su rumbo, han hecho en efecto fuertes inversiones en esta
institución, lo que nos ha permitido tener una infraestructura muy avanzada y
de gran calidad la cual incluso ahora mismo está en proceso de total
actualización (con una inversión por parte del NAP.Perú de cerca de 100 mil dólares
americanos). Este mismo esfuerzo de nuestros asociados (</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES'>Telmex Perú, Telefónica Empresas,
COMSAT, <span class=SpellE>Infoductos</span> y Telecomunicaciones del Perú, </span></font><span
class=SpellE><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'>Movistar</span></font></span><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'> (ex <span class=SpellE>Bellsouth</span>),</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES'> IMPSAT, América Móvil Perú (Claro), y <span
class=SpellE>Americatel</span>) nos está permitiendo invertir tiempo y dinero
en iniciativas de desarrollo de la Sociedad de la Información y en campañas de
comunicación a favor de todo el sector.</span></font><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE;
mso-no-proof:yes'>Saludos,<br>
<br>
Yuri<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE;mso-no-proof:yes'>Moderador –
Lista NAP.LA<font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span></font></span></font><font color=navy><span lang=ES-PE style='color:
navy;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE;mso-no-proof:yes'><br>
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style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES;
mso-no-proof:yes'>***************************************************************</span></font></b></strong><strong><b><font
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Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES;font-weight:bold;mso-no-proof:yes'><br>
</span></font></b><ST1:PERSONNAME><st1:PersonName ProductID="Yuri Herrera"
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE;
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE;
mso-no-proof:yes'>NAP.Perú</span></font></b></strong><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE;mso-no-proof:yes'><br>
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style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:PT;mso-no-proof:yes'><a href="http://www.nap.pe/"><span
lang=ES-PE style='mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'>www.nap.pe</span></a></span></font><font
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color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE;mso-no-proof:yes'><a
href="mailto:yuri.herrera@nap.pe">yuri.herrera@nap.pe</a></span></font><font
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color:black;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE;mso-no-proof:yes'> </span></font><font
size=1 color=black face=Arial><span lang=ES style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:
Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;color:black;mso-ansi-language:ES;
mso-no-proof:yes'>(511) 712-0901 / 712-0902 <br>
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</span></font><strong><b><i><font size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=ES
style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES;
font-style:italic;mso-no-proof:yes'>NAP.Perú</span></font></i></b></strong><i><font
size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=ES style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES;font-style:italic;mso-no-proof:yes'> ...
Construyendo Juntos la Sociedad de la Información<br>
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style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES;
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=ES style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:ES;font-weight:bold'>De:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
mso-ansi-language:ES'> napla-bounces@lacnic.net
[mailto:napla-bounces@lacnic.net] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>En nombre
de </span></b>Jorge Evangelista<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Enviado el:</span></b> Miércoles, 15 de
Febrero de 2006 10:29 p.m.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Para:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">napla@lacnic.net</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Asunto:</span></b> Re: [Napla] Fw: Re: Inicio
de intercambio de mensajes / Estado actual de la lista</span></font><span
lang=ES style='mso-ansi-language:ES'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Me parece muy buena la experiencia en Chile, aqui en Peru si es
alto el costo de interconexion al NAP Perú, por lo que se ha creado
un NAP paralelo con empresas de telecomunicaciones nacionales, llamado el
NAP Lima, ojala todos los ISP se interconecten más
adelante, en beneficio para mejorar la calidad. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><br>
Saludos,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 2/15/06, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Adonaylo,
Gabriel</span></b> <<a href="mailto:Gabriel.Adonaylo@comsat.com.ar">Gabriel.Adonaylo@comsat.com.ar</a>>
wrote:</span></font></span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Carlos, Bill y resto de la exquisita audiencia,<br>
<br>
Quisiera aportar el trabajo realizado por un consultor <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">del</st1:place></st1:State> BID allá por <br>
Diciembre de 2003. Seguramente muchos de ustedes lo conocerán ya que para<br>
confeccionar este informe o proyecto ha transitado por muchos de los países<br>
Latinoamericanos y aprendiendo en cada uno de ellos <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">como</st1:place></st1:City> están constituídos <br>
los NAPs en nuestra región.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.iadb.org/regions/re3/pdf/IIRSA0204.pdf">http://www.iadb.org/regions/re3/pdf/IIRSA0204.pdf</a><br>
<br>
Dos comentarios al respecto: Seguramente contiene errores, <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">como</st1:place></st1:City> todo trabajo <br>
de investigación, es dificil encontrar la perfección y objetividad total.<br>
Por otro lado seguramente está desactualizado por tener poco más de dos<br>
años.<br>
<br>
Saludos,<br>
<br>
Gabriel Adonaylo<br>
Regional IP Product Manager <br>
Comsat International<br>
mail to: <a href="mailto:gabriel.adonaylo@comsat.com.ar">gabriel.adonaylo@comsat.com.ar</a><br>
Direct: +54-11-5354-6196 - Cell: +54-911-5452-1038<br>
Nextel: 142*3434 - Skype: gadonay<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Carlos Silva @ <a href="http://csilva.net">csilva.net</a> [mailto:<a
href="mailto:csilva@csilva.net">csilva@csilva.net</a>]<br>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:28 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:napla@lacnic.net">napla@lacnic.net</a><br>
Subject: [Napla] Fw: Re: Inicio de intercambio de mensajes / Estado actual<br>
de la lista<br>
<br>
<br>
Amigos, por error omití copiar a la lista en mi respuesta<br>
a Bill.<br>
<br>
Saludos<br>
<br>
---------- Forwarded Message ----------- <br>
From: "Carlos Silva @ <a href="http://csilva.net">csilva.net</a>"
<<a href="mailto:csilva@csilva.net">csilva@csilva.net</a>><br>
To: Bill Woodcock <<a href="mailto:woody@pch.net">woody@pch.net</a>> <br>
Sent: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:19:38 -0600<br>
Subject: Re: [Napla] Inicio de intercambio de mensajes / Estado actual de la<br>
<br>
lista<br>
<br>
Bill!!!!<br>
<br>
That's the feedback I've been trying to receive during the last two years <br>
since I wrote the paper!!!!<br>
<br>
Thank you, thank you, thank you.<br>
<br>
I have no other response than really commiting to a careful review of your<br>
points. At the moment my time is devoted to other activities. But Internet <br>
interconection is really the subject of study I'm focused on and I expect to<br>
produce a new paper by the end of the year. Before that I certainly will<br>
exchange a mail or two with you about the subject.<br>
<br>
In the meantime: <br>
<br>
a) Sorry for ignoring this I'd never seen distinct definitions for IXP and<br>
NAP, would you point me to some referencea?<br>
b) There is a full list of references at the end of the paper for sources<br>
about actual NAPs deployed, but gime me a couple of weeks and I'll give you <br>
more detail. I'm glad to see interest in maintaining an updated list.<br>
<br>
Best Regards<br>
<br>
Carlos<br>
<br>
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:03:22 -0800 (PST), Bill Woodcock wrote<br>
> First, my usual apology for replying in English. My Spanish is <br>
> quite rudimentary, and would be insufficient to convey my thoughts here.<br>
><br>
> I'm very much enjoying reading your paper.<br>
><br>
> Your stance vis a vis QoS is not clear... You seem to be
suggesting <br>
> that it will enjoy some success in the future. Is that in fact
your<br>
> position? And if so, can you elaborate somewhat on your
reasons?<br>
><br>
> I'm also not quite clear on the nature of your disagreement with <br>
> Andrew Odlyzko. That may be a language issue, for which you
have my<br>
> apology. In any event, if you say you have a disagreement with<br>
> Andrew, that will raise many people's critical scrutiny, and you <br>
> should probably be prepared to both be very clear, and to defend<br>
> what you're saying. It would also be worthwhile speaking with<br>
> Andrew directly, if you haven't already, to make sure that you're<br>
> not misinterpreting what he's intending to say.<br>
><br>
> Your points regarding a likely future in which metered-rate billing<br>
> will become more predominant seem very well-made and well-supported.<br>
> <br>
> In discussing the formation of the NAPs, you might mention that the<br>
> MAE in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Washington</st1:place></st1:State>
slightly pre-dated the NII NAPs, and was<br>
> "grandfathered in" to the plan, unlike the
others. Its creation was <br>
> not promoted by the NSF, like the other three. Also, you have a<br>
> couple of translation errors in that
paragraph... "NFS" and "<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">MAE</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Center</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>."<br>
><br>
> Throughout, you use the Latin American construction of "NAP" as <br>
> equivalent to IXP, as well as literally as NAP, and since NAP and<br>
> IXP are not themselves equivalent in meaning, this construction is<br>
> unlikely to be understood in the sense that you mean it, by readers <br>
> outside of <st1:place w:st="on">Latin America</st1:place>. About
two-thirds of the way through the<br>
> paper, you explicitly say "The ability to connect at local IXP's<br>
> (sic) (Inter (sic) eXchange Points, i.e. NAP's(sic))" which would be <br>
> pretty universally recognized as factually incorrect. So that<br>
> should probably be disambiguated throughout, with the standard usage<br>
> of IXP where you mean IXP, and NAP only where you literally mean NAP, <br>
> rather than where you mean IXP.<br>
><br>
> Your assertion that no <st1:place w:st="on">Latin America</st1:place>
operator is of sufficient scale,<br>
> particularly relative to US or European operators, to make extra-<br>
> regional acquisitions could be disputed, I think... Telmex is <br>
> certainly of sufficient scale, and was in fact in acquisitions talks<br>
> with XO, a major <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region>
"tier 1" carrier, at one point.<br>
><br>
> You list the following quantities of IXPs in Latin American countries: <br>
><br>
> <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Brazil</st1:place></st1:country-region>:
8<br>
> <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ecuador</st1:place></st1:country-region>:
2<br>
> <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Argentina</st1:place></st1:country-region>:
1<br>
> <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Colombia</st1:place></st1:country-region>:
1<br>
> <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Cuba</st1:place></st1:country-region>: 1<br>
> <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Chile</st1:place></st1:country-region>:
1<br>
> <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Peru</st1:place></st1:country-region>: 1<br>
> <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Panama</st1:place></st1:country-region>:
1<br>
> <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Paraguay</st1:place></st1:country-region>:
1<br>
><br>
> I'd very much like to compare notes, as I'm only aware of five <br>
> actually in operation in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Brazil</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
would dispute the interpretation of<br>
> ETECSA's transit service as an IXP based on what information I've<br>
> had from them about it, but would be happy to learn
otherwise... Is <br>
> the Nicaraguan IX in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Managua</st1:place></st1:City>
not actually in operation? I show that<br>
> it had ten participants in April of 2004... Also, there are two
in<br>
> Equador, to the best of my knowledge: one in <st1:City w:st="on">Quito</st1:City>
with six <br>
> participants, and one in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Guayaquil</st1:place></st1:City>
with six participants. In<br>
> addition, I have heard rumors of two other exchanges in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Panama</st1:place></st1:country-region>, and<br>
> one other in <st1:country-region w:st="on">Argentina</st1:country-region>,
one other in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Chile</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
and one other in<br>
> <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Colombia</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
all of which would be useful to put to rest, if possible. <br>
> Since you don't cite your sources for your list of IXPs, and it<br>
> clearly wasn't coming from our directory, I'd be very curious as to<br>
> where your information was coming from, so I can check any<br>
> discrepancies and update our directory where necessary. <br>
><br>
> All in all, this is an excellent paper, and I'm very happy to see<br>
> it. Please let me know if I or my staff can be of any help in<br>
> running down references or figures.<br>
><br>
>
-Bill <br>
<br>
Saludos,<br>
<br>
-cs<br>
<a href="mailto:csilva@csilva.net">csilva@csilva.net</a><br>
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