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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><span class=SpellE><span class=GramE><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Muchas</span></font></span></span><span
class=GramE> gracias Bill.</span> <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='text-align:justify'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=ES-PE style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'>Lo que indicas
tiene mucho sentido; un aumento del costo en función del tráfico en efecto haría
que el ISP se sienta penalizado en vez de premiado por el valor que aporta al
NAP y por otro lado, un aumento del precio en función de la capacidad del
puerto inhibiría a algunos <span class=SpellE>ISPs</span> a hacer el <span
class=SpellE>upgrade</span>, lo que en efecto puede perjudicar el servicio.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText style='text-align:justify'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=ES-PE style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'>El escenario de precios
iguales para todos es entonces positivo, pero siempre que estos precios estén bien
calculados para poder, no sólo lograr una buena operación, sino tener también capacidad
de inversión futura (para renovación de equipos por ejemplo). Esta forma de
trabajo hace entonces también necesario definir una serie de políticas que
garanticen el uso adecuado del recurso. Por ejemplo un ISP que trafica muy poca
información, pero que ocupa un puerto de alta capacidad, generaría un costo
innecesario. Por lo tanto, si bien la utilización de un puerto de mayor
capacidad no tendría un precio extra, se debería de cumplir con el requisito de
llegar a cierto nivel mínimo de tráfico para tener el derecho de acceder a
dicho puerto; por otro lado, un ISP que no llegue al nivel de tráfico mínimo
requerido para el tipo de puerto que ocupa (suponiendo que no hayan puertos más
pequeños ya disponibles), podría tener que pagar un sobre precio.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE;mso-no-proof:yes'>Saludos,<br>
<br>
Yuri<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:navy;mso-ansi-language:PT;mso-no-proof:yes'><a href="http://www.nap.pe/"><span
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=ES style='font-size:
10.0pt;mso-ansi-language:ES'>-----Mensaje original-----<br>
De: napla-bounces@lacnic.net [mailto:napla-bounces@lacnic.net] En nombre de Bill
Woodcock<br>
Enviado el: Lunes, 20 de Febrero de 2006 03:51 p.m.<br>
Para: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">napla@lacnic.net</st1:PersonName><br>
Asunto: Re: [Napla] Servicios en los <span class=SpellE>NAPs</span></span></font><span
lang=ES-PE style='mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span></span>On Mon, 20 Feb 2006, <st1:PersonName
ProductID="Yuri Herrera" w:st="on">Yuri Herrera</st1:PersonName> B. wrote:<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>> ...estamos explorando alternativas de
cobro por tipo de puerto (10, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>> 100, <st1:metricconverter
ProductID="1 G" w:st="on">1 G</st1:metricconverter>) o por tiempo o por trafico
cursado.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>?Qui experiencias han <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>> tenido en ese sentido?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Offering
10/100/gig ports either at different prices, or based upon <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>utilization,
is common.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Charging based upon
utilization is not.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>You have <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>to
remember that the value of your IX is dependent upon the volume of <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>traffic
which crosses it, so penalizing participants for passing more <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>traffic
is a reverse-incentive.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>That is, you
don't want to charge people <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>more
money for doing what you want them to do (send more traffic), and <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>less
money for doing what you _don't_ want them to do (use up a port but <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>send
less traffic).<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Therefore, what generally
works best is to charge <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>everyone
the same price, as low as possible, but to prioritize access to <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>higher-speed
ports based upon need.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Also,
if you don't charge more money for a faster port, it lessens the <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>financial
disincentive for participants to upgrade...<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>Again, the IX works <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>better
if none of the participants have congested ports, so it's good for <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>the
IX if participants all upgrade when necessary.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>Thus, you don't want <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>it
to be costly for them to do so.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Anyway,
this is how large noncommercial exchanges like <st1:City w:st="on">Seattle</st1:City>
and <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Toronto</st1:place></st1:City> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>and
<st1:place w:st="on">Hong Kong</st1:place> do it.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>There
are other exchanges, like LINX and AMS-IX, which are noncommercial, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>but
maintain very large/expensive staff, and thus they don't present as <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>compelling
a value proposition as they would if they were able to keep <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>their
costs under control.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>That's why there
are competing (less <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>expensive)
exchanges in <st1:City w:st="on">London</st1:City> and <st1:City w:st="on">Amsterdam</st1:City>,
but not in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Seattle</st1:place></st1:City>
and <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Toronto</span></font></st1:place></st1:City>.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>-Bill<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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