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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=SpellE><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
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color:navy'> Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'>Gracias por tus aportes. De hecho nuestra
nueva plataforma tecnológica ya fue adquirida y el diseño de la misma, así como
la selección de la propuesta (casualmente <st1:PersonName
ProductID="la de Cisco" w:st="on">la de Cisco</st1:PersonName> </span></font><font
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mso-symbol-font-family:Wingdings'>J</span></span></font><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'> ) pasó por nuestro Comité Técnico y
nuestro Consejo Directivo.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'>Quisiera que no nos quedáramos en el caso
de nuestra institución solamente, aunque agradezco mucho sus generosos aportes;
la intención del mail con este tema era también impulsar un poco más la
participación de más <span class=SpellE>NAPs</span>, instituciones y personas,
comentando sus experiencias o haciendo consultas.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'>Aumentemos a la actividad de la lista, y de
esta forma incrementemos el valor que la misma tiene para todos.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=ES style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:ES;font-weight:bold'>De:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
mso-ansi-language:ES'> napla-bounces@lacnic.net
[mailto:napla-bounces@lacnic.net] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>En nombre
de </span></b>Michael De Leo (mdeleo)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Enviado el:</span></b> Martes, 21 de Febrero
de 2006 12:37 p.m.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Para:</span></b> napla@lacnic.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Asunto:</span></b> Re: [Napla] Servicios en
los NAPs</span></font><span lang=ES style='mso-ansi-language:ES'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Yuri,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Si estan revisando hacer una actualizacion
de la infrastructura del IXP el reducir los costos es importante. Creo que el
modelo de recuperacion <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">del</st1:place></st1:State>
costo es importante sin impactar a los integrantes de menor trafico. Uno de los
problemas reales <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">del</st1:place></st1:State>
IXP es hacer la actualizacion de la infrastrucutra pero ser "justo"
en el costo por integrante por su trafico deseado.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Pero surgen preguntas basicas <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">como</st1:place></st1:City>: </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- Si se adquiere un switch de puertos
10/100/1000 Mbps el costo de un puerto realmente es igual si lo usas en 10 que
en 1000 Mbps (idealmente). ¿Entonces no sera mas justo simplemente hacer el
costo para cada integrante para cada puerto igual?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- Si todos deciden usar el puerto a 1000
Mbps y suponiendo (deseo que tengan este problema de exito) que se llena la
capacidad <st1:State w:st="on">del</st1:State> puerto, la eleccion <st1:State
w:st="on">del</st1:State> modelo <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">del</st1:place></st1:State>
switch y su capacidad interna de conmutacion de paquetes cuesta mucho mas que el
switch basico 10/100/1000. ¿Van a adquirir un equipo que resuelve el problema
de hoy o al menos tiene crecimiento para los proximos 3 a~os sin tener que
pedirle a los integrantes otro cargo para actualizacion?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>-¿Como cobrar a los puertos vacios? ¿Que
pasa cuando se llenan de nuevos integrantes?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>De lado de la infrastructura hay muchas
opciones, que de parte de Cisco y otros fabricantes. Los costos de
mantenimiento y disponibilidad de sustiticion de partes debe ser considerados.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Suponiendo que el IXP es sin fines de
lucro las decisiones de costos lo aprueban los miembros del IXP.Ellos pueden
tambien sugerir cambios en arquitectura <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">como</st1:place></st1:City>
tener IXPs redundantes o tener opciones de dos puertos de dos switches en
el mismo sitio. <st1:City w:st="on">Como</st1:City> menciona Bill, mucho depende
de los demas costos de operacion para indicar si impacta el costo de un puerto
a 10/100 o 10/100/1000 Mbps por la compra <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">del</st1:place></st1:State> equipo o los costos adicionales de
administracion.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Mike</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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napla-bounces@lacnic.net [mailto:napla-bounces@lacnic.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b><st1:PersonName
ProductID="Yuri Herrera" w:st="on">Yuri Herrera</st1:PersonName> B.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February 21, 2006
6:52 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> napla@lacnic.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Napla] Servicios en
los NAPs</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Muchas
gracias Bill.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='text-align:justify'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=ES-PE style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'>Lo que indicas
tiene mucho sentido; un aumento del costo en función del tráfico en efecto
haría que el ISP se sienta penalizado en vez de premiado por el valor que
aporta al NAP y por otro lado, un aumento del precio en función de la capacidad
del puerto inhibiría a algunos ISPs a hacer el upgrade, lo que en efecto puede
perjudicar el servicio.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='text-align:justify'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=ES-PE style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='text-align:justify'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=ES-PE style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'>El escenario de
precios iguales para todos es entonces positivo, pero siempre que estos precios
estén bien calculados para poder, no sólo lograr una buena operación, sino
tener también capacidad de inversión futura (para renovación de equipos por
ejemplo). Esta forma de trabajo hace entonces también necesario definir una
serie de políticas que garanticen el uso adecuado del recurso. Por ejemplo un
ISP que trafica muy poca información, pero que ocupa un puerto de alta capacidad,
generaría un costo innecesario. Por lo tanto, si bien la utilización de un
puerto de mayor capacidad no tendría un precio extra, se debería de cumplir con
el requisito de llegar a cierto nivel mínimo de tráfico para tener el derecho
de acceder a dicho puerto; por otro lado, un ISP que no llegue al nivel de
tráfico mínimo requerido para el tipo de puerto que ocupa (suponiendo que no
hayan puertos más pequeños ya disponibles), podría tener que pagar un sobre
precio.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE;mso-no-proof:yes'>Saludos,<br>
<br>
Yuri<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE;mso-no-proof:yes'>Moderador
– Lista NAP.La<br>
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yes'><br>
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</span></font></b><st1:PersonName ProductID="Yuri Herrera" w:st="on"><strong><b><font
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font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE;mso-no-proof:yes'><ST1:PERSONNAME>Yuri
Herrera</span></font></b></strong></st1:PersonName><strong><b><font size=2
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=ES style='font-size:
10.0pt;mso-ansi-language:ES'>-----Mensaje original-----<br>
De: napla-bounces@lacnic.net [mailto:napla-bounces@lacnic.net] En nombre de
Bill Woodcock<br>
Enviado el: Lunes, 20 de Febrero de 2006 03:51 p.m.<br>
Para: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">napla@lacnic.net</st1:PersonName><br>
Asunto: Re: [Napla] Servicios en los NAPs</span></font><span lang=ES-PE
style='mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=ES-PE
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-ansi-language:ES-PE'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span></span>On Mon, 20 Feb 2006, <st1:PersonName
ProductID="Yuri Herrera" w:st="on">Yuri Herrera</st1:PersonName> B. wrote:<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>> ...estamos explorando alternativas de
cobro por tipo de puerto (10, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>> 100, <st1:metricconverter
ProductID="1 G" w:st="on">1 G</st1:metricconverter>) o por tiempo o por trafico
cursado.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>?Qui experiencias han <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>> tenido en ese sentido?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Offering
10/100/gig ports either at different prices, or based upon <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>utilization,
is common.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Charging based upon
utilization is not.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>You have <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>to
remember that the value of your IX is dependent upon the volume of <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>traffic
which crosses it, so penalizing participants for passing more <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>traffic
is a reverse-incentive.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>That is, you
don't want to charge people <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>more
money for doing what you want them to do (send more traffic), and <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>less
money for doing what you _don't_ want them to do (use up a port but <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>send
less traffic).<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Therefore, what generally
works best is to charge <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>everyone
the same price, as low as possible, but to prioritize access to <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>higher-speed
ports based upon need.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Also,
if you don't charge more money for a faster port, it lessens the <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>financial
disincentive for participants to upgrade...<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>Again, the IX works <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>better
if none of the participants have congested ports, so it's good for <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>the
IX if participants all upgrade when necessary.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>Thus, you don't want <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>it
to be costly for them to do so.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Anyway,
this is how large noncommercial exchanges like <st1:City w:st="on">Seattle</st1:City>
and <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Toronto</st1:City></st1:place> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>and
<st1:place w:st="on">Hong Kong</st1:place> do it.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>There
are other exchanges, like LINX and AMS-IX, which are noncommercial, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>but
maintain very large/expensive staff, and thus they don't present as <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>compelling
a value proposition as they would if they were able to keep <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>their
costs under control.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>That's why there
are competing (less <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>expensive)
exchanges in <st1:City w:st="on">London</st1:City> and <st1:City w:st="on">Amsterdam</st1:City>,
but not in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Seattle</st1:City></st1:place>
and <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Toronto</span></font></st1:City></st1:place>.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>-Bill<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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