<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Como Google hemos ofrecido nuestra ayuda en forma de asesoría para la creación de NAPS en varios países en los que no lo hay pero si se requiere voluntad de los ISPs y en especial de los más grandes que son los que añaden sentido a los NAPS.<div><br></div><div>Saludos</div><div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:10 AM, HENRY DIAZ wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Si desean el programa de Telecomunicaciones de la Universidad Piloto de<br>Colombia los podría acompañar.<br><br><br>Reciba un cordial Saludo,<br><br><br>Profesor HENRY DIAZ RODRIGUEZ<br>Universidad Piloto de Colombia<br>Facultad de Ingeniería - Programa de Telecomunicaciones <br><a href="http://www.unipiloto.edu.co">www.unipiloto.edu.co</a> / <a href="mailto:henry-diaz@unipiloto.edu.co">henry-diaz@unipiloto.edu.co</a> / <a href="mailto:henrydiaz@engineer.com">henrydiaz@engineer.com</a><br>Carrera 9 # 45A - 44 Tel. 5713321714 <br>Móvil 57- 3124041738<br>Skype: henry.diaz.rodriguez<br>Twitter: henrydiazr<br>Bogotá - Colombia - Sur América<br><br><br><br>-----Mensaje original-----<br>De: <a href="mailto:napla-bounces@lacnic.net">napla-bounces@lacnic.net</a> [mailto:napla-bounces@lacnic.net] En nombre de<br>Dario Tuseddu<br>Enviado el: Lunes, 06 de Febrero de 2012 09:07 a.m.<br>Para: <a href="mailto:napla@lacnic.net">napla@lacnic.net</a><br>Asunto: Re: [LACNIC/Napla] Solicitud de Orientación<br><br>Javier, entiendo que nadie puso sus datos personales ya que confiamos en <br>la sinergia de la lista, donde todos podemos ir sumando apoyo e ideas.<br><br>Aqui tienes mis datos<br><br>Email: <a href="mailto:dariotuseddu@gmail.com">dariotuseddu@gmail.com</a><br>Msn: <a href="mailto:tuseddu@hotmail.com">tuseddu@hotmail.com</a><br>Skype: tuseddu<br>Twitter: tuseddu<br>Telefono: 542994476404 int 104<br>Celular: 5492995078176<br><br>Personalmente tambien soy mucho mas Tecnico que Burocrata, con lo cual <br>puedo colaborar mucho mas en lo tecnico que en la parte legal; no <br>obstante creo que seria muy importante tener un reglamento que rija el <br>IX a los efectos de que nadie pueda tomarlo como propio, lo que anularia <br>gran parte de sus veneficios.<br><br>Saludos<br><br>Dario<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>El 06/02/2012 10:55, Javier Galvez escribió:<br><blockquote type="cite">Mil gracias por las palabras, seria mucha molestia ver algunos modelos de<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">esos contratos de asociacion/afiliacion para ver la terminologia?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Personalmente mencionar que soy mas tecnico que burrocrata, en<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">consecuencia me gusta que las cosas se ejecuten primero y luego le pongan<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">las leyes y demas historias, va por ese lado mi interes en la ejecucion<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Ahor aen cuestion de la imparcialidad, si esta seria una interconexion de<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">prueba obviamente "todos" los participantes si o si tendrian acceso al<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">know-how y a los routers de intercionexion para que no exista nada<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">"oculto" o de que preocuparse<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">al final todos dicen si yo quiero, seria buena idea, pero al final en<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">todos estos anios que estoy tratando de promocionar el proyecto nadie<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">salto a la ejecucion mas por miedo a lo que sus burocratas, y falta de<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">iniciativa (en fin al final son solo empleados y hay que seguir las<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">ordenes del que paga, es decir del jefe)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Lo haya MegaLink, o tigo, o quien sea para mi es irrelevante, lo<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">importante es simplemente que se haga.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Ya van 5 dias platicando del tema y ninguno coloco por lo menos su<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">telefono o mail para contactarse, y tampoco me escribieron directamente.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Estare atento a comentarios y mas que todo a la ejecucion de este proyecto<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Salu2,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Javier Galvez Funes<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Asesor en Internet MegaLink<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Siempre cuenta con nosotros!!!<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">212-9000 Ext: 110 CEL: +(591)-715-22149<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">"Las gentes que nunca hacen mas de lo que se les paga,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">nunca obtienen pago por mas de lo que hacen".<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Vamos ROWAN yo se que TU puedes!!! Usa tus "R. I."<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:napla@lacnic.net">napla@lacnic.net</a> on February 6, 2012 at 8:42 AM -0430 wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hola Javier,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Soy Dario Tuseddu Coordinador Tecnico del Nap Cabase Regional Neuquen,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">entiendo que es muy importante contar con la imparcialidad del sitio,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">sobre todo en esta primera instancia en la que los prestadores pueden<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">llegar a tener dudas sobre la conveniencia de conectarse en un IX con<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">sus competidores.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Tal ves, para arrancar se pudiera localizar el IX en alguna universidad<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">o ente Gubernamental de modo que el IX se pueda poner en marcha<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">rapidamente y con bajos costos de Startup<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Lo cierto es que son inumerables los veneficios de poder interconectarse<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">y estos van desde los estrictamente tecnicos, a lo economicos y<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">comerciales, detalles en los que podemos indagar cuando gustes.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Como te decia Arturo lo mas logico seria formar una Asociacion Civil sin<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">fines de lucro, tal como lo es CABASE en Argentina, a traves de esta se<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">puede lograr que TODO sea absolutamente imparcial, aunque habria que ver<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">cuales son las formas juridicas disponibles en Bolivia y cual<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">convendria especificamente utilizar para este caso.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hay muchas otras oportunidades que superan en veneficios a la<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">instalacion de un DNS, no quiero decir que esto no sea bueno, solamente<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">que ese es el primer metro de muchos Kilometros por recorrrer!<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Saludos, y la mejor de las suertes en la creacion del IX!!<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">A tu dispocision en lo que pueda colaborar<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Dario Tuseddu<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">El 03/02/2012 17:57, Javier Galvez escribió:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">La idea era colocar un DNS principal en el mismo IX para que todos los<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">participantes puedan resolver nombres directamente del IX mas rapido,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">creo<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">que se llamaba dns "K" o algo asi, francamente no recuerdo, pasaron<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">muchos<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">anios.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">las pruebas son super simples<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Cada proveedor (cotas, entel, tigo, MegaLink y la UMSA que estoy<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">agregando<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">yo) se puede conectar de alguna forma (modems sdsl, fibra, o<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">gigabitethernet) al punto que habiamos sugerido (ser nosotros), y<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">simplemente subir una sesion de BGP-4 con el numero autonomo de cada<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">uno.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">En la sugerencia de IX que me hicieron en Lacnic, planteaban que se<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">trabaje con un "route Reflector" para minimizar la infraestructura, y<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">para<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">que todos los proveedores esten conectados a un switch (gigabit)<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Lo que nosotros hicimos fue mas sencillo,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Colocamos 1 router gigabit y 1 switch gigabit, y todos los proveedores<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">se<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">conectarian al switch gigabit, y abririan una sesion bgp con el Router<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">(asumiendo que el IX trabajaria temporalmente con un ASN privado)<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Una vez que funcione esto, lacnic comento que le puede asignar un rango<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">de<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">IP's publicos al IX y un ASN independiente para que haya independencia<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">de<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">proveedor, y para que sea un ente autonomo.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">En fin, me pongo a su disposicion para realizar estas pruebas, y<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">recordar<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">que los puertos gigabit son limitados, el siguiente paso seria<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">fastethernet a 100 y 10mb<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Como les decia, MegaLink ya tiene todo el equipamiento solo seria contar<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">con la voluntad tecnologica de:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Cotas<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Tigo<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Entel<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">MegaLink<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Umsa<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Salu2,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Javier Galvez Funes<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Asesor en Internet MegaLink<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Siempre cuenta con nosotros!!!<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">212-9000 Ext: 110 CEL: +(591)-715-22149<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">"Las gentes que nunca hacen mas de lo que se les paga,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">nunca obtienen pago por mas de lo que hacen".<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Vamos ROWAN yo se que TU puedes!!! Usa tus "R. I."<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:napla@lacnic.net">napla@lacnic.net</a> on February 3, 2012 at 2:38 PM -0430 wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Estuve platicando con la gente de Entel, inicialmente platicamos<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>para<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">hacerlo en el segundo semestre del 2012 por cuestiones de tiempo y<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">agenda<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">pero podemos adelantarlo si existe el soporte local para ayudar a<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">organizarlo.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Originalmente era solo IPv6 pero podemos extenderlo a IXPs y<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">aprovechar<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">para hablar un poco de BGP, seguridad y RPKI.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Leyendo los correos veo que hay interés de:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>- COTAS<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>- ENTEL<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>- TIGO<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>- Megalink<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Además de LACNIC supongo (y tengo la confianza de que asi es aunque<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>no<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">lo haya platicado con ellos) que ISOC y LAC-IX tambien les gustaría<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">participar.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Saludos,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">-as<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On 3 Feb 2012, at 12:10, Nelson Fernandez Zambrana wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hola, este tema es tambien muy importante para nosotros. Nos<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">gustaria<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">participar de esto. Tienen pensada alguna actividad en Bolivia y para<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">cuando seria. ?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Saludos<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Nelson Fernandez Zambrana<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">TIGO Bolivia<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Santa Cruz - Bolivia<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">----- Mensaje original -----<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">De: Arturo Servin [mailto:aservin@lacnic.net]<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Enviado: Friday, February 03, 2012 09:57 AM<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Para: Oswaldo Banegas B.<<a href="mailto:oswaldob@cotas.com.bo">oswaldob@cotas.com.bo</a>>; Lista de operadoresde<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">NAP/IXP de la regió n<<a href="mailto:napla@lacnic.net">napla@lacnic.net</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">CC:<<a href="mailto:napla@lacnic.net">napla@lacnic.net</a>> <<a href="mailto:napla@lacnic.net">napla@lacnic.net</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Asunto: Re: [LACNIC/Napla] Solicitud de Orientación<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Oswaldo,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Claro que podemos ayudarte. De hecho estamos planeando algunas<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">actividades en Bolivia relacionadas con IPv6 y podríamos además<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">organizar<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">algo sobre IXPs. Junto con LAC IX e ISOC estoy seguro que podemos<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">contribuir.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Además de ustedes hay alguna otra organización trabajando en el tema<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">de<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">IXPs?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Saludos,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">as<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Sent from my mobile device<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">(please excuse typoss and brevit.)<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On 3 Feb 2012, at 11:06, "Oswaldo Banegas B."<<a href="mailto:oswaldob@cotas.com.bo">oswaldob@cotas.com.bo</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Buenos Días,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Acudo a la lista NAPLA para solicitar un poco de orientación y<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">asesoramiento. En Bolivia la nueva Ley de TELCO y su Reglamento, indica<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">que los Operadores/Proveedores de Internet deben conformar un<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">NAP/PTT/IXP/PIT a nivel Nacional, esto porque a la fecha no se ha<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">logrado. Si en un plazo de 6 meses, no se ha conformado, el gobierno<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">impondría las condiciones para su conformación. En tal sentido,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">solicito<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">un poco de orientación para iniciar los trámites de conformación del<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">mismo en Bolivia, siguiendo las mejores prácticas que nos puedan<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">aconsejar.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Un 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