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Fernando, pongo un poco de contexto a esas opiniones. <br>
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Se refieren a la Declaración de Montevideo. Aquí en 3 idiomas:<br>
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Andrés<br>
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On 10/8/13 1:10 PM, Fernando Gont wrote:
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:53 AM,
manning bill <span dir="ltr"><<a
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> I think the US executive branch would be better
rid of the control before the vandals work out how to
use it for mischief. But better would be to ensure
that no such leverage exists. There is no reason for
the apex of the DNS to be a single root, it could be
signed by a quorum of signers (in addition to the key
splitting which I am fully familiar with). And every
government should be assigned a sovereign reserve of
IPv6 addresses to prevent a scarcity being used as
leverage.<br>
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> Website: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Quorum signing with split keys was already
built and tested in a root server operator testbed (the
OTDR testbed) from 1998-2005. It was considered more
fragile than the current system.<br>
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<div>Considered more fragile by whom?</div>
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<div>By the members of the $250m/yr NSA mole program?</div>
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<div>Very few people in DNS land recognize the class of
attack as being realistic. Even when they have prime
ministers and members of the GRU visiting them to tell
them how important the issue is to their country.</div>
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<div>We already have one example of lobbyists attempting
this type of attack (see Martin's post). So it is far
from unrealistic. </div>
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<div>At present ICANN's power over the DNS is entirely
discretionary. Attempting to drop Palestine out of the
routing tables would simply be the end of the ICANN root
zone. ICANN could continue to manage .com but their
influence over the rest of the system would end
completely.</div>
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<div>But DNSSEC changes the balance of power. With the
root signed and embedded infrastructure verifying DNSSEC
trust chains, the cost of a switchover rises remarkably.
And when I tried to mention the fact I tended to get
nasty threats.</div>
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<div>The third question of power is 'how do we get rid of
you'. The answer in the case of DNSSEC is that you can't. </div>
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<div>Fortunately the issue is quite easily fixed, just as
the problem of using IPv6 or BGP allocations for leverage
is fixable. Governments don't need to wait on ICANN or the
IETF to develop a quorum signing model for the DNS apex,
they could and should institute one themselves and tell
their infrastructure providers to chain to the quorum
roots rather than the monolithic apex root.</div>
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