[lacnog] Propuesta para crear un IRR en LAC mantenido por LACNIC / Proposal to create an IRR in LAC maintained by LACNIC

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Vie Ene 12 17:11:08 BRST 2018

On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 05:00:04PM -0200, Rubens Kuhl wrote:
> > Por cierto, muchos (prácticamente todos) otros RIRs ya brindan ese
> > servicios a sus miembros y las alternativas disponibles (como RADb)
> > implican un costo anual de aprox US$500 que no todos los ISP pueden
> > pagar (sobre todo los más pequeños).
> bgp.net.br provides IRR services for Brazilian networks for free, as
> does AltDB for networks from everywhere.

A challenge with databases like ALTDB and RADB is that there is no
verification whether a route object actually was created by the owner of
the IP space, or by some random person. Virtually anyone can create
virtually anything in these databases.

Therefor, 'Third party' databases like the above may not be an ideal
substitute for what an RIR could offer its members. RIRs are in a unique
position to couple the 'ownership' of a block to certain actions, this
is what happens in RPKI. APNIC is a good example of this: only the owner
of an IP block (or a designated authorized person) can create route

I wonder what real problem is being solved by creating a LACNIC IRR: is
the trouble that some IP carriers cannot query the RPKI (and thus need
that data in IRR format?) - or is the problem that things are done in
IRR that cannot be done in RPKI? More insight into the motivations
behind this request would be helpful.

Kind regards,


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