[lacnog] ISP - IPV6

Mie Ene 24 22:00:19 BRST 2018

Si – LEDE supports both DS-Lite and MAP. I agree that MAP is probably
better, and I only suggest caution because I don’t know of any large scale
deployments of it yet.

If I remember right, I have seen DS-Lite on D-Link, and I think Technicolor
has some devices that support it. There’s no single list of CPEs that
support each feature because it would take a lot of time to keep it updated,
and there would be argument about how well a feature was supported (and in
which version of firmware).

Jordi will be along soon to remind us of his panel last year:
https://conference.apnic.net/44/program/schedule/#/day/6/bof-discussion-with
-ipv6-ce-vendors
"All panellists said their service providers’ products supported lw4o6,
MAP-E/T, and 464XLAT, but because of the lack of support for these
mechanisms in RFC7084, it is not standard in retail CE.”

Lee

From:  LACNOG <lacnog-bounces en lacnic.net> on behalf of Demian Pecile
<dpecile en sietecapas.com.ar>
Reply-To:  Latin America and Caribbean Region Network Operators Group
<lacnog en lacnic.net>
Date:  Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 6:11 PM
To:  Latin America and Caribbean Region Network Operators Group
<lacnog en lacnic.net>
Subject:  Re: [lacnog] ISP - IPV6

> Ramon
> Nosotros estamos en la misma.
> Por lo que pudimos ver MAP-T o MAP-E es lo que más nos gustó.
> Con respecto a los CPE te referís a Docsis y e-router ?
> Porque hay soluciones open source que soportan ds-lite o MAP.
> 
> Saludos 
> 
> Demian Pecile
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> 
> El ene. 24, 2018, a la(s) 19:46, Ramon Flores <rfmairena en gmail.com> escribió:
> 
>> Gracias Lee por sus comentarios.
>> Trabajo para un ISP relativamente nuevo en el mercado, Lacnic asignó un /22
>> IPv4 y por política ya no es posible otra asignación.
>> Veo que por disponibilidad de CPE, DS-Lite podría ser el camino, pero he
>> tratado de buscar CPE que soporten DS-Lite sin resultado exitoso, sólo he
>> visto CPE para para subscriptores masivos.
>> 
>> Saludos.
>> 
>> 2018-01-24 15:53 GMT-06:00 Lee Howard <lee en asgard.org>:
>>> I think you are exactly right. To be clear, you are an ISP serving
>>> businesses ("usuarios empresariales”)? I would think about putting
>>> residential users behind DS-Lite before business users, just because I want
>>> to take a little risk as possible with my most profitable customers. But
>>> that may not apply to you.
>>> 
>>> DS-Lite is widely deployed. It’s just NAT44 through a tunnel. You probably
>>> want to make sure you support PCP so IPv4 devices can tell the DS-Lite AFTR
>>> that they need to be reachable. You might want to set a lower MTU (1280?) on
>>> the LAN interface of the CPE.
>>> 
>>> CPE support for the CLAT function of 464xlat is coming, but since it’s not
>>> there yet, it’s not the best choice right now.
>>> 
>>> MAP-T and MAP-E are probably better choices because you don’t have to keep
>>> state, so they may be cheaper, and may not require logging, but they have
>>> the same problem as 464xlat: no CPE support yet.
>>> 
>>> Lee
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From:  LACNOG <lacnog-bounces en lacnic.net> on behalf of Ramon Flores
>>> <rfmairena en gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To:  Latin America and Caribbean Region Network Operators Group
>>> <lacnog en lacnic.net>
>>> Date:  Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 3:44 PM
>>> To:  Latin America and Caribbean Region Network Operators Group
>>> <lacnog en lacnic.net>
>>> Subject:  Re: [lacnog] ISP - IPV6
>>> 
>>>> Hola estimados,
>>>> Actualmente estoy investigando las opciones de transición. Me gustaría
>>>> saber sus opiniones de la opción más recomendable para usuarios
>>>> empresariales.
>>>> La idea es tener dual stack en la Lan y en el acceso solo IPv6, por lo que
>>>> tráfico IPv6 iría nativo.
>>>> Veo que una de las estrategias más usada es 464XLAT, pero para usuarios
>>>> empresariales no hay CPE.
>>>> DS-Lite es otra opción pero el tunnel no sé si degrada el desempeño o
>>>> perjudica la experiencia del usuario final.
>>>> 
>>>> Agradecería mucho sus comentarios y sugerencias.
>>>> 
>>>> Saludos.
>>>> 
>>>> El 12 de enero de 2018, 12:01, Franklin Guardia <frguardia en cableonda.com>
>>>> escribió:
>>>>> Buen dia, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Que tal Comunidad, existe alguien en esta lista que esté operando una red
>>>>> de ISP en HFC a CPEs con IPV6?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Saludos.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Atentamente,
>>>>> Franklin I. Guardia
>>>>> Gerente Core IP (MPLS)
>>>>> 
>>>>> T.(+507) 390-7870
>>>>> C.(+507) 6617-1689
>>>>> frguardia en cableonda.com
>>>>> 
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