[LAC-TF] Fwd: [sunset4] Declaring IPv4 Historic

[Alejandro Acosta]

Hola Fer,
  Historic no significa que un protocolo no se vaya a utilizar más,
quiere decir que la IETF no va a dedicar más tiempo en su desarrollo,
total, hace bastante tiempo que no hay cambios en el "core" de IPv4.
  Indiscutiblemente pasaremos_muchos_ años (decadas) más con IPv4, esto
independiente de que declare o no historic.
  Habiando dicho lo anterior, las aplicaciones pauperrimas (que por
cierto también existen en IPv4) pueden estar en los dos protocolos, así
que bien por esto. Las redes el mismo caso. Si pienso en pauperrimas
redes o aplicaciones entonces me quedo sin Internet.
  Por otro lado, mejorar el protocolo (v6).., claro, se hará y se está
haciendo (y tu colaboras en ello).

  Yo en lo personal soporto la idea (ya lo dije en el wg sunset), creo
que es buen momento, de igual manera es un draft, falta mucho para que
se lleve cabo.

Saludos,

Ale,

El 3/16/2016 a las 1:05 PM, Fernando Gont escribió:
> Hola, Ale,
>
> Lee Howard es copado, pero la idea me parece una gran paja.
>
> IPv4 no es "historic".
>
> Por millones de motivos:
>
> Hay muchas apps que no suportan IPv6, implementaciones de IPv6 que son
> pauperrimas, millones de sitios que no soportan IPv6 (e.g., IIRC de los
> Alexa Top 1M, menos de 100K soportan IPv6), etc., etc., etc.
>
>
> LO que hay que hacer cn IPv6 es mejorarlo. Mejorar el protoclo. Mejorar
> las implementaciones. E ir adoptandolo.
>
> Personalmente me resulta curioso que, siendo que toda la campaña de
> marketing en torno a IPv6 ha fallado de manera pauperrima, todavía se
> crea que la gente va a desplegar el protocolo porque digamos que es mas
> lindo, o porque declaremos a IPv4 como historico.
>
> Abrazo,
> Fer
>
>
>
>
> On 03/16/2016 01:55 PM, Alejandro Acosta wrote:
>> Super interesante esto, el futuro parece ser IPv6 o IPv6
>> Hasta ahora hay una leve tendencia de apoyo a este draft.
>>
>> Saludos,
>>
>>
>> -------- Mensaje reenviado --------
>> Asunto: 	[sunset4] Declaring IPv4 Historic
>> Fecha: 	Tue, 15 Mar 2016 08:09:14 +0100
>> De: 	Lee Howard <Lee at asgard.org>
>> Para: 	sunset4 at ietf.org <sunset4 at ietf.org>
>>
>>
>>
>> As noted below, I’ve posted a draft. I thought I’d start a thread for
>> discussing it.
>>
>> PLEASE Please please read the draft before commenting. It’s very short,
>> less than 500 words, and I anticipate a lot of people having strong
>> feelings about it. I would really rather not waste time arguing about
>> things it doesn’t say.
>>
>> To that end, I’ve also written a blog post, explaining in a level of
>> detail I thought inappropriate for the
>> draft: <http://www.wleecoyote.com/blog/ipv4-historic.htm>http://www.wleecoyote.com/blog/ipv4-historic.htm
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Lee
>>
>> From: sunset4
>> <<mailto:sunset4-bounces at ietf.org>sunset4-bounces at ietf.org> on behalf of
>> Wesley George <Wesley.George at twcable.com <mailto:Wesley.George at twcable.com>>
>> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016 at 6:28 PM
>> To: "<mailto:sunset4 at ietf.org>sunset4 at ietf.org" <sunset4 at ietf.org
>> <mailto:sunset4 at ietf.org>>
>> Subject: [sunset4] Agenda items?
>>
>>     As you can see, we have a meeting scheduled for BA. 
>>     As of right now, we have a single agenda item:
>>
>>     https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-howard-sunset4-v4historic-00
>>
>>     While I fully expect that this item can expand to fill all available
>>     time, if there are other things that the WG wishes to discuss,
>>     please respond ASAP to request agenda time. 
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>
>>      
>>
>>     Wes
>>
>>      
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