[LAC-TF] Fwd: [sunset4] Declaring IPv4 Historic

Wed Mar 16 15:00:33 BRT 2016

Hola Fernando,

La cuestion es que el marketing es una “ciencia” no exacta, asi que cosas que se puede pensar que son buenas, no lo son tanto, y al reves …

Pero esa es una discusión filosófica que no tiene mucho sentido.

Lo que si te puedo decir es que la idea de relegar IPv4 a histórico, ya se planteo hace años, pero se decidió que aun era pronto. Yo creo que es una buena idea, porque da una señal al mercado. Aunque no lo creas, hay ejecutivos (y yo me he encontrado con muchos) que si no ven que algo “caduca”, no dan las ordenes para cambiarlo.

Cuanto mas presión haya desde los estándares para que esa señal sea mas fuerte, mejor.

Saludos,
Jordi

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De: LACTF <lactf-bounces at lacnic.net> en nombre de Fernando Gont <fgont at si6networks.com>
Responder a: <lactf at lac.ipv6tf.org>
Fecha: miércoles, 16 de marzo de 2016, 18:35
Para: <lactf at lac.ipv6tf.org>
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Asunto: Re: [LAC-TF] Fwd: [sunset4] Declaring IPv4 Historic

>Hola, Ale,
>
>Lee Howard es copado, pero la idea me parece una gran paja.
>
>IPv4 no es "historic".
>
>Por millones de motivos:
>
>Hay muchas apps que no suportan IPv6, implementaciones de IPv6 que son
>pauperrimas, millones de sitios que no soportan IPv6 (e.g., IIRC de los
>Alexa Top 1M, menos de 100K soportan IPv6), etc., etc., etc.
>
>
>LO que hay que hacer cn IPv6 es mejorarlo. Mejorar el protoclo. Mejorar
>las implementaciones. E ir adoptandolo.
>
>Personalmente me resulta curioso que, siendo que toda la campaña de
>marketing en torno a IPv6 ha fallado de manera pauperrima, todavía se
>crea que la gente va a desplegar el protocolo porque digamos que es mas
>lindo, o porque declaremos a IPv4 como historico.
>
>Abrazo,
>Fer
>
>
>
>
>On 03/16/2016 01:55 PM, Alejandro Acosta wrote:
>> Super interesante esto, el futuro parece ser IPv6 o IPv6
>> Hasta ahora hay una leve tendencia de apoyo a este draft.
>> 
>> Saludos,
>> 
>> 
>> -------- Mensaje reenviado --------
>> Asunto: 	[sunset4] Declaring IPv4 Historic
>> Fecha: 	Tue, 15 Mar 2016 08:09:14 +0100
>> De: 	Lee Howard <Lee at asgard.org>
>> Para: 	sunset4 at ietf.org <sunset4 at ietf.org>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As noted below, I’ve posted a draft. I thought I’d start a thread for
>> discussing it.
>> 
>> PLEASE Please please read the draft before commenting. It’s very short,
>> less than 500 words, and I anticipate a lot of people having strong
>> feelings about it. I would really rather not waste time arguing about
>> things it doesn’t say.
>> 
>> To that end, I’ve also written a blog post, explaining in a level of
>> detail I thought inappropriate for the
>> draft: <http://www.wleecoyote.com/blog/ipv4-historic.htm>http://www.wleecoyote.com/blog/ipv4-historic.htm
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Lee
>> 
>> From: sunset4
>> <<mailto:sunset4-bounces at ietf.org>sunset4-bounces at ietf.org> on behalf of
>> Wesley George <Wesley.George at twcable.com <mailto:Wesley.George at twcable.com>>
>> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016 at 6:28 PM
>> To: "<mailto:sunset4 at ietf.org>sunset4 at ietf.org" <sunset4 at ietf.org
>> <mailto:sunset4 at ietf.org>>
>> Subject: [sunset4] Agenda items?
>> 
>>     As you can see, we have a meeting scheduled for BA. 
>>     As of right now, we have a single agenda item:
>> 
>>     https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-howard-sunset4-v4historic-00
>> 
>>     While I fully expect that this item can expand to fill all available
>>     time, if there are other things that the WG wishes to discuss,
>>     please respond ASAP to request agenda time. 
>> 
>>     Thanks,
>> 
>>      
>> 
>>     Wes
>> 
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