[LACNIC/Politicas] Nueva versión de la propuesta LAC-2020-1

Sun Apr 11 19:00:33 -03 2021

Estimados colegas. 

He seguido con atención la discusión sobre esta propuesta que me parece muy interesante. 

Debo decir que comparto el espíritu que fundamenta la propuesta pero NO la apoyo porque creo que excede el rol que debe tener LACNIC y las políticas de manejo de recursos de numeración. 

Si bien soy totalmente empático con la idea de que los operadores deberían contribuir activametne con el despliegue de IPv6 creo que es algo que hay que trabajarlo a través de la promoción de IPv6 y no haciéndolo mandatorio en la política de transferencia. 

Además de pensar, como decía, que esta propuesta excede lo que desde mi punto de vista, deben ser las políticas de los RIRs, tampoco creo que sea eficiente en lograr el objetivo que se propone. 

No es claro que es que “IPv6 está operativo en partes SIGNIFICATIVAS de la red” y tampoco está claro que sucede si, una vez definido este criterio, la situación cambia luego de ser aprobada la transferencia. 

Muchos operadores tienen IPv6 operativo en el core de la red sin dar servicios a usuarios finales, y no hay dudas que el core es una parte más que significativa de la red. 

Creo por supuesto que es y seguirá siendo un tema fundamental seguir trabajando por el incremento del despliegue de IPv6 de forma integral en Internet y eso es lo que ya hacen los RIRs y muchas otras organizaciones. Me parece que hay que continuar trabajando estos temas también en los grupos de operadores pero no apoyo que este requerimiento se incluya en la política de transferencia tal como se propone. 

Saludos al autor de la propuesta por traer a discusión un tema super relevante. La discusión en si misma contribuye a la concientización sobre la necesidad de la aceleración del despliegue de IPv6.

Saludos, 

Raúl 

2.3.2.18.3 Los destinatarios en la región de LACNIC deberán tener espacio IPv6 distribuido/asignado por LACNIC o por un proveedor y deberán poder probar que este espacio está en uso, para lo cual deberán proporcionarle a LACNIC los detalles documentados del despliegue de la red para demostrar que IPv6 está operativo en partes significativas de la red.

El personal de LACNIC definirá un criterio mínimo para garantizar que la información proporcionada demuestre que IPv6 está operativo. De ser necesario, el personal puede requerir más información para validar este requisito.

> El 31 mar. 2021, a las 11:37, info-politicas at lacnic.net escribió:
> 
> [Português abaixo]
> [English below]
> 
> Estimados suscriptores de la lista de políticas de LACNIC,
> 
> La propuesta LAC-2020-1 ha pasado de la versión 3 a la versión 4
> 
> Título: Agregar IPv6 operativo como requisito para las transferencias de IPv4
> 
> Resumen: On 15th February 2017 LACNIC started IPv4 Exhaustion Phase 3 meaning only new entrants can receive up to a single /22 of IPv4 space. Since then the amount of IPv4 Transfers between organizations has increased reasonably as shown by the official LACNIC reports. With the implementation of LAC-2019-1 and possibility of Inter-RIR transfers these numbers have the potential to grow substantially.
> 
> The objective of this proposal is to add as a requirement for organizations in process of receiving transferred IPv4 space under 2.3.2.18 to show they have an IPv6 allocation/assignment by LACNIC or a provider and that is operational on their networks. Such organization must be able to prove this IPv6 space is being used by providing LACNIC the documented network deployment details to prove IPv6 is operational in significant parts of the network.
> 
> On 28th November 2019 LACNIC Board issued a statement (https://www.lacnic.net/4283/2/lacnic/lacnic-board-calls-on-the-community-to-promote-ipv6-deployment) reinforcing the issue about IPv4 exhaustion, mentioning IPv4 address space will be exhausted by mid-2020 and calling the community to promote IPv6 deployment.
> In its statement LACNIC Board “invite the community to work on promoting the development of policies that will accelerate the effective deployment of IPv6 above other policies that may be discussed at a later date.”
> 
> In the case the receiver provides a written statement from its upstream that IPv6 connectivity is unavailable, the IPv6 requirement may be waived. In the case LACNIC is not able to meet a new entrant request for IPv4 space, or the organization does not hold any IPv4 space the IPv6 requirement may be waived for a transfer up to a /22.
> 
> Para ver el detalle ingrese en:
> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/detail/id/LAC-2020-1/language/sp
> 
> Los cambios respecto a la versión anterior se pueden visualizar aquí:
> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/diff2?id=LAC-2020-1&v=4&v2=3&language=SP
> 
> Los comentarios y los puntos de vista aportados por la comunidad son vitales para el correcto desarrollo del proceso de la propuestas
> - ¿Apoya usted o se opone a esta nueva versión de la propuesta?
> - ¿Ve alguna desventaja en esta nueva versión de la propuesta?
> - ¿Qué cambios podrían hacerse a esta nueva versión de la propuesta para que sea más eficaz?
> 
> 
> Por más información contacte a info-politicas at lacnic.net
> Saludos cordiales, 
> ______________________________________________________________________________________________________
> Prezados assinantes da lista de políticas de LACNIC,
> 
> A proposta LAC-2020-1 tem passado da versão 3 para a versão 4
> 
> Título: Adicionar IPv6 operacional como requisito para as transferências do IPv4
> 
> Resumo: On 15th February 2017 LACNIC started IPv4 Exhaustion Phase 3 meaning only new entrants can receive up to a single /22 of IPv4 space. Since then the amount of IPv4 Transfers between organizations has increased reasonably as shown by the official LACNIC reports. With the implementation of LAC-2019-1 and possibility of Inter-RIR transfers these numbers have the potential to grow substantially.
> 
> The objective of this proposal is to add as a requirement for organizations in process of receiving transferred IPv4 space under 2.3.2.18 to show they have an IPv6 allocation/assignment by LACNIC or a provider and that is operational on their networks. Such organization must be able to prove this IPv6 space is being used by providing LACNIC the documented network deployment details to prove IPv6 is operational in significant parts of the network.
> 
> On 28th November 2019 LACNIC Board issued a statement (https://www.lacnic.net/4283/2/lacnic/lacnic-board-calls-on-the-community-to-promote-ipv6-deployment) reinforcing the issue about IPv4 exhaustion, mentioning IPv4 address space will be exhausted by mid-2020 and calling the community to promote IPv6 deployment.
> In its statement LACNIC Board “invite the community to work on promoting the development of policies that will accelerate the effective deployment of IPv6 above other policies that may be discussed at a later date.”
> 
> In the case the receiver provides a written statement from its upstream that IPv6 connectivity is unavailable, the IPv6 requirement may be waived. In the case LACNIC is not able to meet a new entrant request for IPv4 space, or the organization does not hold any IPv4 space the IPv6 requirement may be waived for a transfer up to a /22.
> 
> Para ver o detalhe acesse:
> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/detail/id/LAC-2020-1/language/pt
> 
> As alterações da versão anterior podem ser vistas aqui:
> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/diff2?id=LAC-2020-1&v=4&v2=3&language=PT
> 
> Os comentários e os pontos de vista aportados pela comunidade são
> vitais para o bom desenvolvimento do processo das propostas
> - Você está a favor ou em contra desta nova versão
> da proposta?- Vê alguma desvantagem nesta nova versão
> da proposta?
> 
> - Que mudanças poderiam ser feitas à esta nova versão
> da proposta para que seja mais eficaz?
> 
> Por mais informações entre em contato conosco através do e-mail:
> info-politicas at lacnic.net.
> 
> Atenciosamente,
> ______________________________________________________________________________________________________
> 
> Dear LACNIC Policy List subscribers,
> 
> Proposal LAC-2020-1 has been updated from version 3 to version 4
> 
> Title: Add IPv6 operational as a requirement for IPv4 transfers
> 
> Summary: On 15th February 2017 LACNIC started IPv4 Exhaustion Phase 3 meaning only new entrants can receive up to a single /22 of IPv4 space. Since then the amount of IPv4 Transfers between organizations has increased reasonably as shown by the official LACNIC reports. With the implementation of LAC-2019-1 and possibility of Inter-RIR transfers these numbers have the potential to grow substantially.
> 
> The objective of this proposal is to add as a requirement for organizations in process of receiving transferred IPv4 space under 2.3.2.18 to show they have an IPv6 allocation/assignment by LACNIC or a provider and that is operational on their networks. Such organization must be able to prove this IPv6 space is being used by providing LACNIC the documented network deployment details to prove IPv6 is operational in significant parts of the network.
> 
> On 28th November 2019 LACNIC Board issued a statement (https://www.lacnic.net/4283/2/lacnic/lacnic-board-calls-on-the-community-to-promote-ipv6-deployment) reinforcing the issue about IPv4 exhaustion, mentioning IPv4 address space will be exhausted by mid-2020 and calling the community to promote IPv6 deployment.
> In its statement LACNIC Board “invite the community to work on promoting the development of policies that will accelerate the effective deployment of IPv6 above other policies that may be discussed at a later date.”
> 
> In the case the receiver provides a written statement from its upstream that IPv6 connectivity is unavailable, the IPv6 requirement may be waived. In the case LACNIC is not able to meet a new entrant request for IPv4 space, or the organization does not hold any IPv4 space the IPv6 requirement may be waived for a transfer up to a /22.
> 
> To see the details, please click on:
> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/detail/id/LAC-2020-1/language/en
> 
> The changes from the previous version can be seen here:
> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/diff2?id=LAC-2020-1&v=4&v2=3&language=EN
> 
> The community's comments and opinions are essential to the proper functioning of the policy development process.
> - Do you support this new version of the proposal or are you against it?
> - Do you think this new version of the proposal has any drawbacks?
> - What changes could be made to this new version of the proposal to make it more effective?
> 
> For further information, please contact info-politicas at lacnic.net
> Kind regards,
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