[LACNIC/Politicas] Politicas Digest, Vol 267, Issue 6
jordi.palet at consulintel.es
jordi.palet at consulintel.es
Sun Sep 28 14:05:24 -03 2025
Hola Henri,
Yo durante años he pensado como tu que era bueno “obligar” al despliegue de IPv6 por medio de politicas de IPv4, pero hemos visto que eso no funciona, de hecho, la comunidad rechaza esas propuestas.
Por ello pensé que era mejor “la zanahoria que el palo” (no se si en Brasil o en otros países de la región se entiende la expresión).
La propuesta de la que estoy hablando es la LAC-2025-4, que premia (en la lista de espera) a quienes realmente desplieguen IPv6. De este modo, si alguien ha necesitado una transferencia de IPv4 (o alquiler de IPv4), puede “recuperar” antes esa inversión al poder devolver esos recursos que recibió por un coste mucho mayor:
https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/detail/id/LAC-2025-4/language/sp
De nuevo, seria bueno recibir comentarios antes de llegar al foro público, y no solo en el propio foro.
Gracias!
Saludos,
Jordi
@jordipalet
> El 28 sept 2025, a las 18:57, Henri Alves de Godoy via Politicas <politicas at lacnic.net> escribió:
>
> Boa tarde a todos, um comentário geral das últimas mensagens,
>
> Agradeço as contribuições de Hernan e Norberto, mas é preciso ser direto em
> relação à palavra citada como convivência com o IPv4 no qual não representa
> equilíbrio, mas sim acomodação. Ao legitimar práticas que prolongam sua
> utilização, estamos apenas reforçando a falta de compromisso que nos trouxe
> a este cenário crítico. Sem um posicionamento claro e firme de quem recebe
> os recursos, dificilmente chegaremos a um consenso, e o resultado
> inevitável será a repetição dos erros do passado.
>
> A história da Internet, que conhecemos e acompanhamos diariamente é bem
> clara, TODOS os paliativos criados em torno do IPv4, sejam NAT, CGNATs ou
> ajustes temporários, APENAS aumentaram a complexidade, elevaram custos e
> atrasaram de forma significativa a adoção do IPv6. Não se trata, portanto,
> de minimizar possiveis efeitos nocivos, mas sim, na minha opinião,
> perpetuar o legado sob outro rótulo. Insistir nesse caminho é incoerente
> com as melhores práticas regionais e com a nossa própria missão como
> profissionais de preparar a Internet para o futuro.
>
> Se não aprendermos com a nossa própria história, continuaremos a pagar um
> preço cada vez mais alto, tanto técnico quanto estratégico, por manter vivo
> um modelo já esgotado.
>
> Hernan Seoane, seu comentário sobre a simples exigência de um ASN e a
> consequente solicitação de um bloco IPv6 não garantem, por si só, o
> compromisso real desses novos ISPs com a adoção do IPv6.
>
> Somar novos ISPs ao LACNIC não pode ser visto apenas como um número ou
> estatística de adesão, mas como uma oportunidade de promover uma mudança
> estrutural. Se não houver compromissos claros, estaremos apenas ampliando a
> base de associados que continuam dependentes do legado.
>
> Abraços a todos !
> Henri.
>
>
> Em sáb., 27 de set. de 2025 às 16:19, <norberto.faria at nap.com.ve> escreveu:
>
>> Hola Comunidad, Estoy de acuerdo con lo que plantea Hernan.
>>
>> Esta política ayudara en 2 puntos principales.
>>
>> El primero en darle un marco legal a un procedimiento que se hace detrás
>> de bambalinas y que no se dejara de hacer por la no aprobación de esta.
>> Motivado por una necesidad esencial de buscar obtener recursos numéricos
>> que si no se consiguen en LACNIC los van a ir a buscar a otro RIR.
>>
>> Segundo a permitir darle uso a recursos que están asignados a muchos que
>> no usan y que por temor a incumplir con las políticas de lacnic no se
>> alquilan (transfieren temporalmente), que sabemos en la practica estos
>> recursos no se revocan por no usar y que hacer una auditoría de estos no es
>> una tarea viable / practica. Si lo vemos desde un punto de vista más
>> económico dejando una pregunta retórica ¿Para que queremos que el dinero
>> recurrente de alquiler salga de la región? Pido disculpas si hiero a los
>> fundamentalistas, solo invito a hacer más pragmáticos.
>>
>> Voy a ser muy enfático con lo siguiente: No estoy en contra de la adopción
>> IPv6, soy enfático que ese es el camino a seguir. A mi parecer es probable
>> que quizás nuestros nietos sean los que vean un IPv6 only, mientras esto
>> llega debemos entender que nos quedamos sin segmentos IPv4 sin asignación
>> y buscar formas de convivir con ello.
>>
>> Norberto Faria
>> CEO
>>
>> Celular: +58 (424) 6021143
>> Email: norberto.faria at nap.com.ve
>> www.nap.com.ve
>>
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>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: Politicas <politicas-bounces at lacnic.net> En nombre de Hernan
>> Arcidiacono
>> Enviado el: sábado, 27 de septiembre de 2025 11:45 a. m.
>> Para: Lista para discusion de politicas de la comunidad de LACNIC <
>> politicas at lacnic.net>
>> Asunto: Re: [LACNIC/Politicas] Politicas Digest, Vol 267, Issue 6
>>
>> Henri:
>> (Español, Português embaixo)
>> Gracias por el comentario.
>>
>> Quiero ratificar que nuestro objetivo no es el de perpetuar IPv4, sino de
>> minimizar los efectos nocivos que ocurren mientras transitamos hacia una
>> internet IPv6.
>>
>> Estamos 100% alineados a buscar y potenciar todos los caminos posibles
>> hacia IPv6. Lo que ofrece nuestra propuesta de política es un paliativo
>> mientras esto no ocurre al 100% y en mi opinión no atenta, ni debe permitir
>> que atente contra una Internet IPv6.
>>
>> Gracias nuevamente por aportar a este sano debate.
>>
>> (Portugues)
>> Obrigado pelo comentário.
>>
>> Quero reafirmar que nosso objetivo não é perpetuar o IPv4, mas sim
>> minimizar os efeitos nocivos que ocorrem enquanto fazemos a transição para
>> uma Internet IPv6.
>>
>> Estamos 100% alinhados em buscar e fortalecer todos os caminhos possíveis
>> rumo ao IPv6. O que nossa proposta de política oferece é um paliativo
>> enquanto isso não acontece em 100%, e na minha opinião não atenta, nem deve
>> permitir que se atente contra uma Internet IPv6.
>>
>> Agradeço novamente por contribuir para este saudável debate.
>>
>> Hernan Arcidiacono
>>
>> CTO
>>
>> +549 11 5025 5106
>>
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2025 at 10:43 AM Henri Alves de Godoy via Politicas <
>> politicas at lacnic.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Bom dia a todos,
>>>
>>> Corazza, tudo bem ? Embora compreenda o seu argumento, acredito que
>>> seja necessário aprofundar a análise em alguns aspectos. A
>>> regulamentação da sub-alocação de IPv4 pode até trazer maior
>>> rastreabilidade e controle, mas ao mesmo tempo corre o risco de
>>> legitimar práticas que prolongam ainda mais a dependência do IPv4,
>>> indo contra as melhores práticas regionais e mundiais que reforçam a
>> prioridade de transição para IPv6.
>>>
>>> A afirmação de que o problema da adoção não é mais dos provedores
>>> também merece atenção. Provedores continuam desempenhando papel
>>> central no ecossistema, seja no fornecimento de conectividade
>>> compatível com IPv6, seja na pressão positiva sobre fabricantes e
>>> desenvolvedores de conteúdo para suporte nativo. Minimizar essa
>>> responsabilidade pode enfraquecer os esforços coletivos de transição.
>>>
>>> Admitir que o IPv4 continuará sendo necessário por mais alguns anos
>>> não deveria justificar novas políticas para mantê-lo ativo. O esforço
>>> deveria estar em criar incentivos claros e ações práticas para
>>> acelerar a adoção do IPv6, evitando repetir o erro histórico de
>> perpetuar o legado.
>>>
>>> Obrigado. Abraços !
>>> Henri.
>>>
>>> Em sáb., 27 de set. de 2025 às 08:55, Junior Corazza
>>> <corazza at telic.com.br
>>>>
>>> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> Yo tambien apoyo la política.
>>>>
>>>> Sub-asignacion de direcciones IPv4 ya ocurre desde hace mucho
>>>> tiempo, sin ningún tipo de trazabilidad ni documentación. Esta
>>>> política llega para resolver muchos de los problemas que enfrentan
>>>> hoy los pequeños proveedores, y sobre todo, para regularizar lo que
>> puede ser legal.
>>>>
>>>> En mi opinión, no creo que esto vaya a afectar la implementación de
>>>> IPv6, ya que sabemos que el problema de su adopción ya no está en
>>>> los proveedores. Lamentablemente, IPv4 seguirá siendo necesario
>>>> durante
>>> algunos
>>>> años más.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Politicas <politicas-bounces at lacnic.net> on behalf of
>>>> politicas-request at lacnic.net <politicas-request at lacnic.net>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, 16 September 2025 at 21:15
>>>> To: politicas at lacnic.net <politicas at lacnic.net>
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>>>> 1. Re: NP: LAC-2025-5 - Sub-asignaci?n IPv4 a terceros
>>>> (hernan.seoane at cabase.org.ar)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2025 21:14:34 -0300
>>>> From: <hernan.seoane at cabase.org.ar>
>>>> To: "'Lista para discusion de politicas de la comunidad de LACNIC'"
>>>> <politicas at lacnic.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [LACNIC/Politicas] NP: LAC-2025-5 - Sub-asignaci?n IPv4
>>>> a terceros
>>>> Message-ID: <015801dc2768$0c295670$247c0350$@cabase.org.ar>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>> Estimados
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Apoyo la pol?tica.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2.3.2.19.2. Condiciones y Requisitos
>>>>
>>>> a. La organizaci?n receptora deber? contar al menos con un ASN y
>>>> direccionamiento IPv6 asignado por LACNIC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Quer?a hacer un aporte desde lo econ?mico, detallando aqu? los
>>>> costos que deber?a afrontar la entidad RECEPTORA de una subasignacion
>> IPV4.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. ASN: La cuota inicial de 500 USD de ASN para IPV6 /SMALL
>>> (?nica
>>>> vez)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2. Cuota promocional de IPV6 /SMALL (valor de lista USD 2.100
>>> anual)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A?O
>>>>
>>>> Cuota prevista USD
>>>>
>>>> Cuota aprobada por el Directorio 2023 USD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2023
>>>>
>>>> 800
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2024
>>>>
>>>> 1.450
>>>>
>>>> 900
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2025
>>>>
>>>> 1.750
>>>>
>>>> 1.000
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2026
>>>>
>>>> 2.100
>>>>
>>>> 1.200
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2027
>>>>
>>>> 2.100
>>>>
>>>> 1.450
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2028
>>>>
>>>> 2.100
>>>>
>>>> 1.750
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2029
>>>>
>>>> 2.100
>>>>
>>>> 2.100*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3. Por ultimo, el receptor deber? acordar y abonar el valor que
>> fije
>>>> la
>>>> entidad que ofrece el recurso.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ?Me estoy olvidando de algo mas?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Saludos
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hernan Seoane
>>>>
>>>> Hernan.seoane at cabase.org.ar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Politicas <politicas-bounces at lacnic.net> On Behalf Of Uesley
>>> Correa
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2025 8:47 AM
>>>> To: Lista para discusion de politicas de la comunidad de LACNIC
>>>> <politicas at lacnic.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [LACNIC/Politicas] NP: LAC-2025-5 - Sub-asignaci?n IPv4
>>>> a terceros
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> E eu espero voc? l?! Vamos colocar o papo em dia!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Enviado do Gmail para iPad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 at 07:35 Henri Alves de Godoy via Politicas <
>>>> <mailto:politicas at lacnic.net> politicas at lacnic.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ol? Uesley,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Mais uma vez obrigado pelos esclarecimentos.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Desejo boas discuss?es a todos em El Salvador.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Abra?os !
>>>>
>>>>> Henri.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Em ter., 9 de set. de 2025 ?s 23:36, Uesley Correa
>>>>
>>>>> <uesleycorrea at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Hola Henri!
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Hoy por hoy, tenemos dos escenarios:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> 1 - tercero, que de manera err?nea usa recursos que no le han
>>>>>> sido
>>>>
>>>>>> asignados directamente por LACNIC (sea con paga o sin paga, es
>>>>
>>>>> indiferente)
>>>>
>>>>>> a trav?s de un asociado LACNIC;
>>>>
>>>>>> 2 - recursos sin uso en miembros LACNIC, que podr?an estar en
>>>>>> uso
>>>>
>>>>>> pero no est?n pues el miembro entiende que bajo pol?ticas, no
>>>>>> puede
>>>>
>>>>>> rentar ni asignar sin un ?servicio? vinculado. Tampoco se
>>>>>> devuelven
>>>>
>>>>>> al stock (ser?a el escenario perfecto, pero no funciona as?).
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Creemos que para el miembro, regularizar el uso de recursos
>>>>
>>>>>> asignados a terceros es una manera de evitar la p?rdida de esa
>>>> asignaci?n.
>>>>
>>>>> Actualmente,
>>>>
>>>>>> bajo pol?ticas, si se descubren usos irregulares, el miembro
>>>>>> pierde
>>>>
>>>>>> el recurso. Para el tercero, hay el impacto, pero no tan grande
>>>>>> como
>>>>
>>>>>> ser?a para el asociado LACNIC. Entonces, creemos que una vez la
>>>>
>>>>>> pol?tica sea aceptada por la comunidad, y despu?s del referido
>>>>
>>>>>> proceso en LACNIC hasta implementaci?n en el manual, el mayor
>>>>
>>>>>> interesado en arreglar el tema deber?a ser el asociado. Y eso
>>>>
>>>>>> generar?a un movimiento en favor de usar recursos que est?n
>>> ?dormidos?
>>>> en operadores de la regi?n.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Saludos y nuevamente, gracias por sus consultas.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Enviado do Gmail para iPad
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 at 17:47 Henri Alves de Godoy via Politicas <
>>>>
>>>>>> <mailto:politicas at lacnic.net> politicas at lacnic.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Caro Uesley,
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Muito obrigado pela resposta e esclarecimentos da proposta.
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Pelo meu entendimento de leigo nesse assunto, tamb?m se deseja
>>>>
>>>>>> regulamentar
>>>>
>>>>>>> ou normatizar uma a??o que j? ocorre de maneira irregular como
>>>>
>>>>>>> voc?
>>>>
>>>>>> disse.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Acredito que a proposta seria para ter algo mais organizado e
>>>>
>>>>>> documentado,
>>>>
>>>>>>> para deixar mais p?blico e claro os terceiros que queiram alugar
>> ?
>>>>
>>>>> Voc?s
>>>>
>>>>>>> acham que com essa proposta o terceiro deseja passar por esse
>>>>
>>>>>>> processo
>>>>
>>>>>> mais
>>>>
>>>>>>> transparente?
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Abra?os
>>>>
>>>>>>> Henri.
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Em seg., 8 de set. de 2025 ?s 20:34, Uesley Correa <
>>>>
>>>>>> <mailto:uesleycorrea at gmail.com> uesleycorrea at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Henri, mi estimado!
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mil gracias por tu comentario. Siempre es muy valioso leerte
>>>>>>>> en
>>>>
>>>>>>>> la
>>>>
>>>>>> lista.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tercero, en este concepto es alguien que no ha recibido
>>>>
>>>>>>>> directamente
>>>>
>>>>> un
>>>>
>>>>>>>> recurso de LACNIC, pero hace uso de dicho recurso.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sobre el tema del enfoque en IPv6, nosotros evaluamos bien
>>>>>>>> este
>>>>
>>>>> tema, y
>>>>
>>>>>>> de
>>>>
>>>>>>>> verdad: es un tema muy importante fomentar la implementaci?n
>>>>>>>> de
>>>> IPv6.
>>>>
>>>>>> Por
>>>>
>>>>>>>> ello, uno de los requisitos de la propuesta justamente es la
>>>>
>>>>>>> justificaci?n
>>>>
>>>>>>>> de uso. LACNIC en su proceso de justificaci?n, siempre busca
>>>>
>>>>>>>> saber
>>>>
>>>>>> sobre
>>>>
>>>>>>> el
>>>>
>>>>>>>> compromiso del operador con la implementaci?n del IPv6. Sin
>>>>
>>>>>>>> embargo,
>>>>
>>>>> si
>>>>
>>>>>>>> somos mas restrictivos con la propuesta, no vamos a
>>>>>>>> solucionar
>>>>
>>>>>>>> el
>>>>
>>>>>>> problema
>>>>
>>>>>>>> que hoy existe: la sub asignaci?n de manera irregular e
>>>>
>>>>> irresponsable,
>>>>
>>>>>>> sin
>>>>
>>>>>>>> trazabilidad y sin nada de documentaci?n. O peor todav?a:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> recursos
>>>>
>>>>> IPv4
>>>>
>>>>>>>> parados y sin uso, en lugar de estar en alg?n operador que
>>>>>>>> los
>>>>
>>>>> necesite
>>>>
>>>>>>>> para crecer. Los esfuerzos de todos nosotros son grandes
>>>>>>>> para
>>>>
>>>>>>>> que el
>>>>
>>>>>> IPv6
>>>>
>>>>>>>> llegue al 100% de despliegue, pero para esa propuesta, en
>>>>
>>>>>>>> nuestro WG, llegamos a conclusi?n que forzar eso de esa
>>>>>>>> manera,
>>>>
>>>>>>>> no va a
>>>>
>>>>> contribuir
>>>>
>>>>>>> con
>>>>
>>>>>>>> el crecimiento del IPv6, tampoco solucionar la problem?tica
>>>>>>>> del
>>>> IPv4.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Saludos cordiales,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Enviado do Gmail para iPad
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 at 14:35 Henri Alves de Godoy via
>>>>>>>> Politicas <
>>>>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:politicas at lacnic.net> politicas at lacnic.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Boa tarde a todos,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Uma duvida e um pouco confuso tentar esclarecer e chegar a
>>>>>>>>> uma
>>>>
>>>>>>> defini??o
>>>>
>>>>>>>> o
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> que ? "terceiro".
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Terceiro dentro da infraestrutura, terceiro fora da
>>>> infraestrutura.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eu ainda entendo que uma proposta mais geral de qualquer
>>>>
>>>>>> sub-aloca??o,
>>>>
>>>>>>> se
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> realmente for necess?ria, para normalizar o que hoje j?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ocorre,
>>>>
>>>>> seja
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> melhor.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Qualquer proposta que venha a surgir com rela??o a esse
>>>>>>>>> tema
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> eu
>>>>
>>>>>>> gostaria
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> que fosse mais inovadora e de impacto, talvez, sem sempre
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> repetir
>>>>
>>>>>>> quase o
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> mesmo. Algo do tipo que j? descrevi nos emails de outras
>>>>
>>>>> propostas,
>>>>
>>>>>>> que
>>>>
>>>>>>>> se
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> n?o houver qualquer compromisso m?nimo por parte de quem
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> receber?
>>>>
>>>>> os
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> recursos no sentido de avan?ar nos mecanismos de transi??o
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> para o
>>>>
>>>>>> IPv6
>>>>
>>>>>>> ou
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> evitar a perpetua??o do CGNAT como solu??o permanente, a
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> proposta
>>>>
>>>>>>>> continua
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> indo na contram?o das pol?ticas e princ?pios defendidos
>>>>>>>>> pelo
>>>>
>>>>> LACNIC,
>>>>
>>>>>>> que
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> buscaram fomentar a transi??o para o IPv6 e promover boas
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> pr?ticas
>>>>
>>>>> na
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> gest?o dos recursos.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Obrigado !
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Henri.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Em seg., 8 de set. de 2025 ?s 14:02,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < <mailto:info-politicas at lacnic.net>
>>>>>>>>> info-politicas at lacnic.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [Portugu?s abaixo]
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [English below]
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Estimados suscriptores de la Lista de Pol?ticas de
>>>>>>>>>> LACNIC,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Se recibi? una nueva propuesta de Pol?tica, se le asign?
>>>>>>>>>> el
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> id
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LAC-2025-5.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> T?tulo: Sub-asignaci?n de Recursos IPv4 a Terceros
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> T?tulo abreviado: Sub-asignaci?n IPv4 a terceros
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Resumen: El Manual de Pol?ticas de LACNIC (secci?n 0.9)
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> proh?be actualmente la sub-asignaci?n de direcciones
>>>>>>>>>> IPv4 a
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> terceros
>>>>
>>>>> fuera
>>>>
>>>>>> de
>>>>
>>>>>>>> la
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> infraestructura propia del receptor.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> En el contexto de agotamiento de IPv4, esta restricci?n
>>>>>>>>>> ha
>>>>
>>>>> derivado
>>>>
>>>>>>> en
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> pr?cticas informales de ?alquiler? de direcciones sin
>>>>>>>>>> dejar
>>>>
>>>>>> registro
>>>>
>>>>>>> de
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> la
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> operaci?n, con los consecuentes inconvenientes que esto
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> acarrea,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> incluyendo
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> la posibilidad de fuga de recursos hacia otros RIRs a
>>>>>>>>>> trav?s
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> de transferencias.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Los peque?os ISPs son, aunque no exclusivamente, los
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> principales perjudicados bajo el esquema actual.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Esta propuesta crea un mecanismo transparente, con
>>>>
>>>>>> responsabilidades
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> claramente definidas, para habilitar la sub-asignaci?n
>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> IPv4,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ofreciendo
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> una alternativa que se ajuste a nuestras pol?ticas y
>>>>>>>>>> brinde
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> un
>>>>
>>>>>> marco
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> regulado a pr?cticas que hoy existen sin control.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Los lineamientos originales presentados a la lista en
>>>>>>>>>> Agosto
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>
>>>>>> 2025
>>>>
>>>>>>> y
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> que
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> recibieron comentarios de parte de la comunidad han sido
>>>>
>>>>>> analizados y
>>>>
>>>>>>>> en
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> mayor o menor medida, la mayoria de ellos, incorporado a
>>>>>>>>>> la
>>>>
>>>>>>> propuesta.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Se propone hacer una modificaci?n sobre el punto 0.9 y
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> adicionar
>>>>
>>>>>> una
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> secci?n nueva para este tipo de subasignaciones.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Propuesta completa:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Modificaci?n de punto 0.9 (existente)
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 0.9.Asignar
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Asignar significa delegar espacio de direcciones a un
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> usuario
>>>>
>>>>>> final,
>>>>
>>>>>>>> para
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> su uso exclusivamente dentro de la infraestructura que
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> opera, as?
>>>>
>>>>>>> como
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> para
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> fines de interconexi?n.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> La asignaci?n de espacio de direcciones es s?lo para el
>>>>>>>>>> uso
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> por
>>>>
>>>>> el
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> receptor original de dicha asignaci?n, as? como para
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> dispositivos
>>>>
>>>>>> de
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> terceros, siempre y cuando est?n operando dentro de
>>>>>>>>>> dicha
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> infraestructura.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No est? permitida la sub-asignaci?n a terceros fuera de
>>>>>>>>>> la
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> infraestructura
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> propia del receptor original, salvo en los casos
>>>>>>>>>> previstos
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> en la
>>>>
>>>>>>>> secci?n
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2.3.2.19.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Texto Nuevo (Nueva secci?n)
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2.3.2.19 ? Sub-asignaci?n de Recursos IPv4 a Terceros
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2.3.2.19.1. ?mbito de Aplicaci?n La presente pol?tica
>>>>>>>>>> aplica
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> exclusivamente a la sub-asignaci?n de
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> recursos
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> IPv4.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2.3.2.19.2. Condiciones y Requisitos a. La organizaci?n
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> receptora deber? contar al menos con un ASN y
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> direccionamiento IPv6 asignado por LACNIC.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> b. El tama?o m?nimo ser? un /24 y el m?ximo un /21.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> c. La organizaci?n receptora deber? demostrar el uso o
>>>>>>>>>> la
>>>>
>>>>> necesidad
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> inmediata de al menos el 25% del bloque sub-asignado, y
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> presentar
>>>>
>>>>>> un
>>>>
>>>>>>>> plan
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> detallado para alcanzar un 50% de utilizaci?n en el
>>>>>>>>>> plazo de
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> un
>>>>
>>>>>> a?o.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LACNIC
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> podr? solicitar informaci?n adicional si lo considera
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> necesario
>>>>
>>>>>> para
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> validar la justificaci?n.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2.3.2.19.3. Transparencia y Trazabilidad a.
>>>>>>>>>> Identificaci?n
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> en WHOIS: Cada sub-asignaci?n deber?
>>>>
>>>>> registrarse
>>>>
>>>>>> en
>>>>
>>>>>>>> la
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> base WHOIS de LACNIC, vinculando el bloque de
>>>>>>>>>> direcciones
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> con el
>>>>
>>>>>> ASN
>>>>
>>>>>>>> del
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> receptor.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> b. Bit?cora P?blica de Movimientos: Se crear? y mantendr?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> una
>>>>
>>>>>>> bit?cora
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> p?blica para dar trazabilidad a los eventos de inicio y
>>>>>>>>>> fin
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>
>>>>> cada
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sub-asignaci?n identificando el bloque de direcciones,
>>>>>>>>>> el
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ASN del
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> receptor,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> la fecha y el tipo de evento (inicio de sub-asignaci?n o
>>>>>>>>>> fin
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> de sub-asignaci?n).
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2.3.2.19.4. Responsabilidad sobre los Recursos La
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> responsabilidad final sobre el uso de las direcciones IP
>>>>
>>>>> recaer?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> siempre en la organizaci?n miembro de LACNIC que realiza
>>>>>>>>>> la
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sub-asignaci?n.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> En caso de mal uso por parte del receptor, la
>>>>>>>>>> organizaci?n
>>>>
>>>>> miembro
>>>>
>>>>>>>> deber?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> finalizar la sub-asignaci?n; de no hacerlo, podr? ser
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> susceptible
>>>>
>>>>>> de
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> revocaci?n de recursos por parte de LACNIC seg?n las
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> pol?ticas
>>>>
>>>>>>>> vigentes.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2.3.2.19.5. Mecanismo Anti-especulaci?n Los bloques IPv4
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> recibidos por transferencia (secci?n 2.3.2.18) o
>>>>
>>>>>>> desde
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> el
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> pool de recursos recuperados de LACNIC no podr?n ser
>>>>>>>>>> objeto
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> de sub-asignaci?n bajo esta modalidad durante un per?odo
>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> tres (3)
>>>>
>>>>>>> a?os
>>>>
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> partir de su recepci?n.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Para ver el detalle ingrese en:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> <
>>> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/detail/id/LAC-2025-5/language
>>>>>
>>>> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/detail/id/LAC-2025-5/language
>>>>
>>>>>> /sp
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Los comentarios y los puntos de vista aportados por la
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> comunidad
>>>>
>>>>>> son
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> vitales para el correcto desarrollo del proceso de la
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> propuestas
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - ?Apoya usted o se opone a esta propuesta?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - ?Esta propuesta resolver?a un problema que usted est?
>>>>
>>>>>>>> experimentando?-
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ?Ve alguna desventaja en esta propuesta?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - ?Qu? cambios podr?an hacerse a esta propuesta para que
>>>>>>>>>> sea
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> m?s
>>>>
>>>>>>>> eficaz?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Por m?s informaci?n contacte a
>>>> <mailto:info-politicas at lacnic.net> info-politicas at lacnic.net
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Saludos cordiales,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Prezados assinantes da lista de pol?ticas de LACNIC,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Foi recebida uma nova proposta de Pol?tica, foi
>>>>>>>>>> atribu?do o
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> id
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LAC-2025-5.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> T?tulo: Sub-asignaci?n de Recursos IPv4 a Terceros
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> T?tulo abreviado: Sub-asignaci?n IPv4 a terceros
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Resumo: El Manual de Pol?ticas de LACNIC (secci?n 0.9)
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> proh?be
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> actualmente
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> la sub-asignaci?n de direcciones IPv4 a terceros fuera
>>>>>>>>>> de la
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> infraestructura propia del receptor.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> En el contexto de agotamiento de IPv4, esta restricci?n
>>>>>>>>>> ha
>>>>
>>>>> derivado
>>>>
>>>>>>> en
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> pr?cticas informales de ?alquiler? de direcciones sin
>>>>>>>>>> dejar
>>>>
>>>>>> registro
>>>>
>>>>>>> de
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> la
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> operaci?n, con los consecuentes inconvenientes que esto
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> acarrea,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> incluyendo
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> la posibilidad de fuga de recursos hacia otros RIRs a
>>>>>>>>>> trav?s
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> de transferencias.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Los peque?os ISPs son, aunque no exclusivamente, los
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> principales perjudicados bajo el esquema actual.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Esta propuesta crea un mecanismo transparente, con
>>>>
>>>>>> responsabilidades
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> claramente definidas, para habilitar la sub-asignaci?n
>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> IPv4,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ofreciendo
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> una alternativa que se ajuste a nuestras pol?ticas y
>>>>>>>>>> brinde
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> un
>>>>
>>>>>> marco
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> regulado a pr?cticas que hoy existen sin control.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Los lineamientos originales presentados a la lista en
>>>>>>>>>> Agosto
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>
>>>>>> 2025
>>>>
>>>>>>> y
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> que
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> recibieron comentarios de parte de la comunidad han sido
>>>>
>>>>>> analizados y
>>>>
>>>>>>>> en
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> mayor o menor medida, la mayoria de ellos, incorporado a
>>>>>>>>>> la
>>>>
>>>>>>> propuesta.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Se propone hacer una modificaci?n sobre el punto 0.9 y
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> adicionar
>>>>
>>>>>> una
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> secci?n nueva para este tipo de subasignaciones.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Para ver o detalhe acesse:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> <
>>> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/detail/id/LAC-2025-5/language
>>>>>
>>>> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/detail/id/LAC-2025-5/language
>>>>
>>>>>> /pt
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Os coment?rios e os pontos de vista aportados pela
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> comunidade s?o
>>>>
>>>>>>>> vitais
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> para o bom desenvolvimento do processo das propostas
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - ?Voc? ? a favor ou contra desta proposta?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - ?Esta proposta iria resolver um problema que voc? est?
>>>>
>>>>>>>> experimentando?-
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ?V? alguma alguma desvantagem nesta proposta?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - ?Que mudan?as poderiam ser feitas ? proposta para que
>>>>>>>>>> seja
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> mais
>>>>
>>>>>>>> eficaz?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Por mais informa??es entre em contato conosco atrav?s do
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> seguinte
>>>>
>>>>>>>> e-mail:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:info-politicas at lacnic.net>
>>> info-politicas at lacnic.net
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Atenciosamente,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear LACNIC Policy List subscribers,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A new Policy Proposal has been received and assigned the
>>>>
>>>>> following
>>>>
>>>>>>> ID:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LAC-2025-5.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Title: Sub-asignaci?n de Recursos IPv4 a Terceros
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Abbreviated title: Sub-asignaci?n IPv4 a terceros
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Summary: El Manual de Pol?ticas de LACNIC (secci?n 0.9)
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> proh?be actualmente la sub-asignaci?n de direcciones
>>>>>>>>>> IPv4 a
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> terceros
>>>>
>>>>> fuera
>>>>
>>>>>> de
>>>>
>>>>>>>> la
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> infraestructura propia del receptor.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> En el contexto de agotamiento de IPv4, esta restricci?n
>>>>>>>>>> ha
>>>>
>>>>> derivado
>>>>
>>>>>>> en
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> pr?cticas informales de ?alquiler? de direcciones sin
>>>>>>>>>> dejar
>>>>
>>>>>> registro
>>>>
>>>>>>> de
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> la
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> operaci?n, con los consecuentes inconvenientes que esto
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> acarrea,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> incluyendo
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> la posibilidad de fuga de recursos hacia otros RIRs a
>>>>>>>>>> trav?s
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> de transferencias.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Los peque?os ISPs son, aunque no exclusivamente, los
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> principales perjudicados bajo el esquema actual.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Esta propuesta crea un mecanismo transparente, con
>>>>
>>>>>> responsabilidades
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> claramente definidas, para habilitar la sub-asignaci?n
>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> IPv4,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ofreciendo
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> una alternativa que se ajuste a nuestras pol?ticas y
>>>>>>>>>> brinde
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> un
>>>>
>>>>>> marco
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> regulado a pr?cticas que hoy existen sin control.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Los lineamientos originales presentados a la lista en
>>>>>>>>>> Agosto
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>
>>>>>> 2025
>>>>
>>>>>>> y
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> que
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> recibieron comentarios de parte de la comunidad han sido
>>>>
>>>>>> analizados y
>>>>
>>>>>>>> en
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> mayor o menor medida, la mayoria de ellos, incorporado a
>>>>>>>>>> la
>>>>
>>>>>>> propuesta.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Se propone hacer una modificaci?n sobre el punto 0.9 y
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> adicionar
>>>>
>>>>>> una
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> secci?n nueva para este tipo de subasignaciones.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To read the proposal, please go to
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> <
>>> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/detail/id/LAC-2025-5/language
>>>>>
>>>> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/detail/id/LAC-2025-5/language
>>>>
>>>>>> /en
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The community's comments and opinions are essential to
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> proper functioning of the policy development process.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Do you support this policy or are you against it?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Would this proposal solve a problem you are
>>>>>>>>>> experiencing?-
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>
>>>>> you
>>>>
>>>>>>>> think
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> this proposal has any drawbacks?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>
>>>>>>>> effective?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For further information, please contact
>>>>
>>>>> <mailto:info-politicas at lacnic.net> info-politicas at lacnic.net
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> Am?rica
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Latina
>>>>
>>>>> y
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Caribe
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Montevideo-Uruguay
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tel?fono: +598 2604 22 22
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> https://rir.la/codigoconducta-PT) se aplica as listas de
>>>>
>>>>> discussao
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LACNIC's Community Code of Conduct (
>>>>
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>>>>>> https://rir.la/codigoconducta-EN
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>> https://rir.la/codigoconducta-EN
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>>>>>>>> <https://rir.la/codigoconducta-SP>
>>>> https://rir.la/codigoconducta-SP) aplica a las listas de
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> https://rir.la/codigoconducta-PT) se aplica as listas de
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>>>>> ( <https://rir.la/codigoconducta-EN>
>>>> https://rir.la/codigoconducta-EN
>>>>
>>>>> )
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>>>>>>> <https://rir.la/codigoconducta-SP>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>>>> <https://rir.la/codigoconducta-PT>
>>> https://rir.la/codigoconducta-PT
>>>> )
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>>> <https://rir.la/codigoconducta-SP>
>>>>>> https://rir.la/codigoconducta-SP
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>>>>
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>>>>>> https://rir.la/codigoconducta-PT
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