[lacnog] Mala performance con Europa
Arturo Servin
arturo.servin en gmail.com
Mie Abr 10 12:07:10 BRT 2013
It works to me (using ANTEL as transit), but we have our own IP space,
so it may be the announce of the DSL prefix from Antel:
traceroute 213.133.107.241
traceroute to 213.133.107.241 (213.133.107.241), 64 hops max, 52 byte
packets
1 87-7-200 (200.7.87.1) 3.670 ms 0.936 ms 0.803 ms
2 edgemvd01-bbone (200.7.84.34) 3.578 ms 3.837 ms 3.733 ms
3 r200-40-98-25.ir-static.adinet.com.uy (200.40.98.25) 1.791 ms
1.940 ms 1.876 ms
4 ibb2agu2-7-1.antel.net.uy (200.40.18.241) 3.537 ms 2.250 ms 2.143 ms
5 * ibr3agu1-p2.antel.net.uy (200.40.18.166) 9.954 ms 5.458 ms
6 so4-1-1-0-gramiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (84.16.7.125)
131.599 ms 131.656 ms 162.633 ms
7 176.52.249.242 (176.52.249.242) 142.088 ms
176.52.251.198 (176.52.251.198) 131.338 ms
176.52.251.190 (176.52.251.190) 132.894 ms
8 xe2-1-1-0-grtwaseq6.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.123.186)
162.206 ms 162.666 ms
xe3-1-4-0-grtwaseq3.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.123.146)
255.017 ms
9 xe0-0-2-0-grtpareq1.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.116.214)
256.621 ms
xe4-0-0-0-grtpareq1.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.116.226)
341.401 ms
xe0-0-2-0-grtpareq1.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.116.214)
312.705 ms
10 212.73.205.225 (212.73.205.225) 417.341 ms
212.73.205.221 (212.73.205.221) 408.313 ms
212.73.205.225 (212.73.205.225) 417.402 ms
11 vlan80.csw3.paris1.level3.net (4.69.168.190) 312.997 ms 306.365 ms
ae-70-70.csw2.paris1.level3.net (4.69.168.126) 313.223 ms
12 ae-82-82.ebr2.paris1.level3.net (4.69.161.101) 287.155 ms
ae-92-92.ebr2.paris1.level3.net (4.69.161.105) 360.018 ms
ae-82-82.ebr2.paris1.level3.net (4.69.161.101) 373.220 ms
13 ae-47-47.ebr1.frankfurt1.level3.net (4.69.143.141) 313.404 ms
364.374 ms
ae-45-45.ebr1.frankfurt1.level3.net (4.69.143.133) 313.455 ms
14 ae-61-61.csw1.frankfurt1.level3.net (4.69.140.2) 365.352 ms 373.579 ms
ae-91-91.csw4.frankfurt1.level3.net (4.69.140.14) 313.466 ms
15 ae-4-90.edge7.frankfurt1.level3.net (4.69.154.203) 373.804 ms
ae-2-70.edge7.frankfurt1.level3.net (4.69.154.75) 366.777 ms
ae-1-60.edge7.frankfurt1.level3.net (4.69.154.11) 375.510 ms
16 195.16.162.254 (195.16.162.254) 374.195 ms 371.744 ms 417.721 ms
17 hos-bb2.juniper3.rz2.hetzner.de (213.239.240.129) 313.254 ms
311.508 ms 313.353 ms
18 hos-tr3.ms-ex3k2.rz1.hetzner.de (213.239.193.227) 313.399 ms
305.718 ms
hos-tr4.ms-ex3k2.rz1.hetzner.de (213.239.193.243) 380.976 ms
19 * * *
Regards.
as
On 4/10/13 12:02 PM, Nicolas Pence wrote:
> Hi, today I've found traffic issues when going to Germany, forcing the
> connection
> to take an IP Address starting with 186.52.x.x seemed to partially solve
> the issue
> but not at it's full throughput, any help would be great.
>
> Fails from ANTEL's ADSL:
>
> traceroute to hetzner.com (213.133.107.241), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
> 1 192.168.1.153 1.179 ms 1.178 ms 1.174 ms
> 2 200.40.21.3 44.607 ms 48.042 ms 49.479 ms
> 3 200.40.21.205 76.359 ms 76.388 ms 76.384 ms
> 4 200.40.16.165 60.436 ms 62.863 ms 66.782 ms
> 5 200.40.18.166 82.375 ms 82.885 ms 82.888 ms
> 6 84.16.8.89 207.306 ms 209.372 ms 225.846 ms
> 7 176.52.251.198 225.848 ms 176.52.249.242 189.527 ms
> 94.142.126.186 188.554 ms
> 8 176.52.249.145 227.316 ms 176.52.249.149 186.298 ms 213.140.37.82
> 187.775 ms
> 9 * * *
> 10 * * *
> 11 * * *
>
> from ANTEL's ADSL (going through tinet):
>
> traceroute to hetzner.com (213.133.107.241), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
> 1 192.168.1.153 (192.168.1.153) 0.656 ms 0.652 ms 0.647 ms
> 2 cor1bras1.antel.net.uy (200.40.21.3) 43.827 ms 46.736 ms 49.189 ms
> 3 ibb2cor1-7-2-92.antel.net.uy (200.40.21.77) 52.125 ms 54.558 ms
> 56.897 ms
> 4 ibb2agu1-1-3.antel.net.uy (200.40.16.73) 59.787 ms 61.854 ms
> 64.776 ms
> 5 ibr3agu1-p1.antel.net.uy (200.40.18.38) 68.853 ms 69.899 ms 72.247 ms
> 6 84.16.8.89 (84.16.8.89) 242.878 ms 243.811 ms *
> 7 * * *
> 8 * * *
> 9 * * *
> 10 * * *
> 11 * ae-70-70.csw2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.168.126) 315.324 ms 314.321 ms
> 12 ae-72-72.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.161.97) 308.838 ms 311.108
> ms 313.784 ms
> 13 ae-46-46.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.143.137) 324.978 ms
> 333.618 ms 329.271 ms
> 14 ae-71-71.csw2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.140.6) 317.606 ms
> 319.629 ms 322.031 ms
> 15 ae-2-70.edge7.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.154.75) 324.231 ms
> 350.263 ms 350.090 ms
> 16 195.16.162.254 (195.16.162.254) 353.490 ms 363.258 ms *
> 17 * * *
> 18 hos-tr3.ms-ex3k2.rz1.hetzner.de (213.239.193.227) 308.911 ms
> 317.807 ms 311.427 ms
> 19 dedihetzner.your-server.de (213.133.107.241) 317.481 ms 323.116
> ms 308.836 ms
>
> Checking the ownership of those IP's it seems that:
>
> route: 84.16.0.0/19
> descr: Telefonica International Wholesale Network
>
> and
>
> inetnum: 176.52.248.0 - 176.52.251.255
> netname: TDATANET
> descr: Telefonica International Wholesale Network TIWS
> Infrastructure
>
>
> Thank you
>
> On 10/04/13 11:53, Nicolas Antoniello wrote:
>> Hi Sascha,
>>
>>
>> 2013/4/6 Sascha E. Pollok <sp en iphh.net <mailto:sp en iphh.net>>
>>
>> Hola a todos,
>>
>> sorry - todavia no hablo espanol bien. Will switch to English.
>> Maintaining a relationship using Skype from Germany to Uruguay, I
>> am sensible to throughput problems of course. Recently (yesterday)
>> I had several issues
>> with routes going down the Tinet way (it should be
>> Tiscali/Inteliquent, not Telecom Italia).
>>
>>
>> Yes, my typo (in fact it's Tiscali/Inteliquent)...
>>
>>
>>
>> With heavy losses I think in the US. Changing the route to
>> Globalcrossing (AS3549)->Telefonica->Antel changed it. The routes
>> we see here are only the ones to Tinet and Telefonica (while most
>> more-specifics are seen on the Telefonica path).
>>
>> I will setup some smokepings and keep an eye. If I see something
>> again, I will save some MTRs Europe->Montevideo back-and-forth and
>> send them for
>> comparison.
>>
>>
>> That´s it! That is what I believe will be more usefull to try to
>> isolate the problematic segment of the path. As soon as you have
>> something please send it to the list so as to try to find out where
>> the problem is.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any stable hosts in MVD I may throw into the smokeping from the UK and
>> Germany?
>>
>> Muchisimas gracias y saludos
>> Sascha
>>
>> --
>> Sascha E. Pollok, CCNP E-Mail: sp en iphh.net
>> <mailto:sp en iphh.net>
>> Manager Network Design and Operations Tel: +49 (0)40 374919-10
>> <tel:%2B49%20%280%2940%20374919-10>
>> IPHH Internet Port Hamburg GmbH Fax: +49 (0)40 374919-29
>> <tel:%2B49%20%280%2940%20374919-29>
>> Wendenstrasse 408 AG Hamburg, HRB 76071
>> 20537 Hamburg, Germany CEO: Axel G. Kroeger
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 5 Apr 2013, Nicolas Antoniello wrote:
>>
>> Hola Luar,
>>
>> Resulta un poco raro no? Pues no veo grandes problemas o
>> diferencias con esos trace... uno de ellos parece
>> que más allá de Antel cursa por Tinet (Telecom Italia) y el
>> otro por Telefónica con lo que de ser entre
>> Antel y el peer de tránsito el problema sería con ambos (o al
>> menos eso esperíamos ya que indicas que el
>> problema se presenta en los 2 casos).
>> Por otro lado, por la latencia que hay no se puede concluir
>> que existe un problema de "estrangulamiento"
>> de tráfico como el que experimentas... creo que habría que
>> hacer algunas pruebas entre USA y Europa
>> (intentando cursar por los mismos camimos o similares) para
>> ver donde puede estar el problema.
>> Todo indicaría que esta entre USA y Europa no?
>>
>> Saludos,
>> Nico
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/4/1 Luar Roji <nic en roji.net <mailto:nic en roji.net>>
>> Hola Nico!
>>
>> Desde ADSL: https://gist.github.com/cyberplant/5286556
>>
>> Desde Fibra Optica:
>> https://gist.github.com/cyberplant/5286562
>>
>> Saludos!
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 01, 2013 at 02:37:56PM -0300, Nicolas
>> Antoniello wrote:
>> > Luar,
>> >
>> > Tenés algún Traceroute que puedas pasar para ver el
>> camino que están
>> > siguiendo los paquetes desde Europa?
>> > Tal vez podamos ver donde se estaría dando el cuello
>> de botella.
>> >
>> > Saludos,
>> > Nico
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/4/1 Luar Roji <nic en roji.net <mailto:nic en roji.net>>
>> >
>> > > Hola!
>> > >
>> > > A raiz de unas discusiones con un amigo bastante
>> quejoso se me dio por
>> > > investigar un poco mas y al final tenia razon.
>> > >
>> > > Me gustaria tener un poco mas de idea de si el
>> problema es nuestro
>> > > (uruguay-antel) por los peers con los que hay
>> enlace, o el problema es algo
>> > > mas de fondo.
>> > >
>> > > Para referencia estuve intentando descargar este
>> archivo:
>> > > http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/ls-lR.gz
>> > >
>> > > desde la conexion de mi casa (ADSL 6Mbit), y desde
>> una fibra de 30Mb y la
>> > > velocidad fue de 30K/seg promedio (con algunos picos
>> de hasta 100K).
>> > >
>> > > Como termometro hice la misma descarga desde USA y
>> la velocidad supero el
>> > > megabit por segundo.
>> > >
>> > > Tambien descargue el mismo archivo desde USA desde
>> la fibra y el ADSL y en
>> > > ambos casos llego a la velocidad esperada.
>> > >
>> > > Para los que quieran probar contra USA,
>> http://roji.net/files/ls-lR.gz
>> > >
>> > > Alguien mas tiene este mismo problema?
>> > >
>> > > Saludos!
>>
>>
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