[lacnog] Mala performance con Europa
Nicolas Pence
nicolas en pence.com.uy
Mie Abr 10 12:22:46 BRT 2013
Hi Sacha, thak you for your offer, I can do the trace to the working IP:
The IP who works:
traceroute to 186.52.147.35 (186.52.147.35), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 neomai.increhost.com (78.47.25.40) 0.051 ms 0.011 ms 0.009 ms
2 hos-tr1.juniper1.rz19.hetzner.de (213.239.242.129) 0.180 ms 0.231
ms 0.228 ms
3 hos-bb2.juniper4.rz2.hetzner.de (213.239.240.138) 2.756 ms 2.828
ms 2.825 ms
4 r1nue1.core.init7.net (77.109.135.101) 2.821 ms 2.891 ms 2.939 ms
5 r1nue2.core.init7.net (77.109.140.154) 10.854 ms 10.988 ms 11.086 ms
6 r1fra2.core.init7.net (77.109.140.49) 12.342 ms 8.550 ms 8.525 ms
7 r1fra1.core.init7.net (77.109.128.137) 6.019 ms 5.942 ms 5.992 ms
8 xe-4-2-2.fra23.ip4.tinet.net (77.67.76.237) 5.968 ms 5.942 ms
5.992 ms
9 xe-9-0-0.mia10.ip4.tinet.net (89.149.180.10) 124.270 ms 124.159
ms 124.143 ms
10 telecom-argentian-usa-gw.ip4.tinet.net (216.221.158.66) 137.081 ms
137.143 ms 137.791 ms
11 ibr2nap3-0-2-2-0.antel.net.uy (200.40.16.169) 281.958 ms 281.985
ms 281.049 ms
12 ibb2agu1-3-0-0.antel.net.uy (200.40.16.173) 290.178 ms 290.215 ms
290.235 ms
13 r200-40-16-182.antel.net.uy (200.40.16.182) 290.094 ms 290.079 ms
290.110 ms
14 ibb2cor1-1-2.antel.net.uy (200.40.16.105) 283.333 ms 283.422 ms
283.440 ms
15 cor1bras1-bb1.antel.net.uy (200.40.21.78) 282.645 ms 282.720 ms
282.693 ms
16 r186-52-147-35.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy (186.52.147.35) 321.926
ms 322.762 ms 325.214 ms
it seems that other IP's are working as well, so to anyone who helped,
thank you !
Cheers
Nicolas
On 10/04/13 12:10, Sascha E. Pollok wrote:
> Hi Nicolas,
>
> are you able to also do a traceroute Hetzner (Germany) to the two IPs
> at Antel? Otherweise I could talk to one of the people I know at
> Hetzner (for those who dont know: it is a virtual server hoster in
> Germany).
>
> Cheers
> Sascha
>
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2013, Nicolas Pence wrote:
>
>> Hi, today I've found traffic issues when going to Germany, forcing
>> the connection
>> to take an IP Address starting with 186.52.x.x seemed to partially
>> solve the issue
>> but not at it's full throughput, any help would be great.
>>
>> Fails from ANTEL's ADSL:
>>
>> traceroute to hetzner.com (213.133.107.241), 30 hops max, 60 byte
>> packets
>> 1 192.168.1.153 1.179 ms 1.178 ms 1.174 ms
>> 2 200.40.21.3 44.607 ms 48.042 ms 49.479 ms
>> 3 200.40.21.205 76.359 ms 76.388 ms 76.384 ms
>> 4 200.40.16.165 60.436 ms 62.863 ms 66.782 ms
>> 5 200.40.18.166 82.375 ms 82.885 ms 82.888 ms
>> 6 84.16.8.89 207.306 ms 209.372 ms 225.846 ms
>> 7 176.52.251.198 225.848 ms 176.52.249.242 189.527 ms
>> 94.142.126.186 188.554 ms
>> 8 176.52.249.145 227.316 ms 176.52.249.149 186.298 ms
>> 213.140.37.82 187.775 ms
>> 9 * * *
>> 10 * * *
>> 11 * * *
>>
>> from ANTEL's ADSL (going through tinet):
>>
>> traceroute to hetzner.com (213.133.107.241), 30 hops max, 60 byte
>> packets
>> 1 192.168.1.153 (192.168.1.153) 0.656 ms 0.652 ms 0.647 ms
>> 2 cor1bras1.antel.net.uy (200.40.21.3) 43.827 ms 46.736 ms 49.189 ms
>> 3 ibb2cor1-7-2-92.antel.net.uy (200.40.21.77) 52.125 ms 54.558 ms
>> 56.897 ms
>> 4 ibb2agu1-1-3.antel.net.uy (200.40.16.73) 59.787 ms 61.854 ms
>> 64.776 ms
>> 5 ibr3agu1-p1.antel.net.uy (200.40.18.38) 68.853 ms 69.899 ms
>> 72.247 ms
>> 6 84.16.8.89 (84.16.8.89) 242.878 ms 243.811 ms *
>> 7 * * *
>> 8 * * *
>> 9 * * *
>> 10 * * *
>> 11 * ae-70-70.csw2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.168.126) 315.324 ms
>> 314.321 ms
>> 12 ae-72-72.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.161.97) 308.838 ms 311.108
>> ms 313.784 ms
>> 13 ae-46-46.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.143.137) 324.978 ms
>> 333.618 ms 329.271 ms
>> 14 ae-71-71.csw2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.140.6) 317.606 ms
>> 319.629 ms 322.031 ms
>> 15 ae-2-70.edge7.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.154.75) 324.231 ms
>> 350.263 ms 350.090 ms
>> 16 195.16.162.254 (195.16.162.254) 353.490 ms 363.258 ms *
>> 17 * * *
>> 18 hos-tr3.ms-ex3k2.rz1.hetzner.de (213.239.193.227) 308.911 ms
>> 317.807 ms 311.427 ms
>> 19 dedihetzner.your-server.de (213.133.107.241) 317.481 ms 323.116
>> ms 308.836 ms
>>
>> Checking the ownership of those IP's it seems that:
>>
>> route: 84.16.0.0/19
>> descr: Telefonica International Wholesale Network
>>
>> and
>>
>> inetnum: 176.52.248.0 - 176.52.251.255
>> netname: TDATANET
>> descr: Telefonica International Wholesale Network TIWS
>> Infrastructure
>>
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> On 10/04/13 11:53, Nicolas Antoniello wrote:
>> Hi Sascha,
>>
>>
>> 2013/4/6 Sascha E. Pollok <sp en iphh.net>
>> Hola a todos,
>>
>> sorry - todavia no hablo espanol bien. Will switch to
>> English. Maintaining a
>> relationship using Skype from Germany to Uruguay, I am
>> sensible to throughput
>> problems of course. Recently (yesterday) I had several
>> issues
>> with routes going down the Tinet way (it should be
>> Tiscali/Inteliquent, not
>> Telecom Italia).
>>
>>
>> Yes, my typo (in fact it's Tiscali/Inteliquent)...
>>
>>
>> With heavy losses I think in the US. Changing the route to
>> Globalcrossing
>> (AS3549)->Telefonica->Antel changed it. The routes we see here
>> are only the ones to
>> Tinet and Telefonica (while most more-specifics are seen on the
>> Telefonica path).
>>
>> I will setup some smokepings and keep an eye. If I see
>> something again, I will save some
>> MTRs Europe->Montevideo back-and-forth and send them for
>> comparison.
>>
>>
>> That´s it! That is what I believe will be more usefull to try to
>> isolate the problematic segment of
>> the path. As soon as you have something please send it to the list so
>> as to try to find out where
>> the problem is.
>>
>>
>> Any stable hosts in MVD I may throw into the smokeping from the
>> UK and
>> Germany?
>>
>> Muchisimas gracias y saludos
>> Sascha
>>
>> --
>> Sascha E. Pollok, CCNP E-Mail: sp en iphh.net
>> Manager Network Design and Operations Tel: +49 (0)40 374919-10
>> IPHH Internet Port Hamburg GmbH Fax: +49 (0)40 374919-29
>> Wendenstrasse 408 AG Hamburg, HRB 76071
>> 20537 Hamburg, Germany CEO: Axel G. Kroeger
>>
>> On Fri, 5 Apr 2013, Nicolas Antoniello wrote:
>>
>> Hola Luar,
>>
>> Resulta un poco raro no? Pues no veo grandes problemas o
>> diferencias con
>> esos trace... uno de ellos parece
>> que más allá de Antel cursa por Tinet (Telecom Italia) y
>> el otro por
>> Telefónica con lo que de ser entre
>> Antel y el peer de tránsito el problema sería con ambos
>> (o al menos eso
>> esperíamos ya que indicas que el
>> problema se presenta en los 2 casos).
>> Por otro lado, por la latencia que hay no se puede
>> concluir que existe un
>> problema de "estrangulamiento"
>> de tráfico como el que experimentas... creo que habría
>> que hacer algunas
>> pruebas entre USA y Europa
>> (intentando cursar por los mismos camimos o similares)
>> para ver donde puede
>> estar el problema.
>> Todo indicaría que esta entre USA y Europa no?
>>
>> Saludos,
>> Nico
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/4/1 Luar Roji <nic en roji.net>
>> Hola Nico!
>>
>> Desde ADSL: https://gist.github.com/cyberplant/5286556
>>
>> Desde Fibra Optica:
>> https://gist.github.com/cyberplant/5286562
>>
>> Saludos!
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 01, 2013 at 02:37:56PM -0300, Nicolas
>> Antoniello wrote:
>> > Luar,
>> >
>> > Tenés algún Traceroute que puedas pasar para ver
>> el camino que están
>> > siguiendo los paquetes desde Europa?
>> > Tal vez podamos ver donde se estaría dando el
>> cuello de botella.
>> >
>> > Saludos,
>> > Nico
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/4/1 Luar Roji <nic en roji.net>
>> >
>> > > Hola!
>> > >
>> > > A raiz de unas discusiones con un amigo
>> bastante quejoso se me dio
>> por
>> > > investigar un poco mas y al final tenia razon.
>> > >
>> > > Me gustaria tener un poco mas de idea de si el
>> problema es nuestro
>> > > (uruguay-antel) por los peers con los que hay
>> enlace, o el
>> problema es algo
>> > > mas de fondo.
>> > >
>> > > Para referencia estuve intentando descargar
>> este archivo:
>> > > http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/ls-lR.gz
>> > >
>> > > desde la conexion de mi casa (ADSL 6Mbit), y
>> desde una fibra de
>> 30Mb y la
>> > > velocidad fue de 30K/seg promedio (con algunos
>> picos de hasta
>> 100K).
>> > >
>> > > Como termometro hice la misma descarga desde
>> USA y la velocidad
>> supero el
>> > > megabit por segundo.
>> > >
>> > > Tambien descargue el mismo archivo desde USA
>> desde la fibra y el
>> ADSL y en
>> > > ambos casos llego a la velocidad esperada.
>> > >
>> > > Para los que quieran probar contra USA,
>> http://roji.net/files/ls-lR.gz
>> > >
>> > > Alguien mas tiene este mismo problema?
>> > >
>> > > Saludos!
>>
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