[lacnog] Resumen de LACNOG, Vol 160, Envío 5

Leandro Roggerone leandro en tecnetmza.com.ar
Lun Abr 5 09:02:43 -03 2021


Guys , thanks for the feedback ,
I think It will be worth it to try ixp manager  + bird.
Other:
What do you mean with "cisco-like" software ?
Regards.
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>    1. Re:   Diseño de mi primer punto de intercambio ip.
>       (Lucas Willian Bocchi)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 11:09:37 -0300
> From: Lucas Willian Bocchi <lucas.bocchi en gmail.com>
> To: Latin America and Caribbean Region Network Operators Group
>         <lacnog en lacnic.net>
> Subject: Re: [lacnog]  Diseño de mi primer punto de intercambio ip.
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> Luiz Gustavo
> And I say as route-server too. You won't know what people do to won't have
> any preocupation to buy or use a hardware to do a correct job.
>
> When I ask to you data that confirm your affirmations, I say that because,
> as I know, obviously, the majority of people using quagga/frr, not bird.
> See: you have sayed that IX.br use bird but when I connect to these
> route-servers I see only quagga.
>
> telnet lg.sp.ptt.br
> Trying 200.160.6.199...
> Connected to lg.sp.ix.br.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> ==============================================
> =           IX.br de Sao Paulo/SP            =
> =            Contact:  eng en ix.br             =
> =             +55 11 5509-3550               =
> =                                            =
> =                                            =
> =          Looking Glass Server              =
> =   All connections and keystrokes logged    =
> ==============================================
> lg.sp.ptt.br> show ip bgp summary
> BGP router identifier 187.16.222.252, local AS number 263044
> RIB entries 266105, using 24 MiB of memory
> Peers 8, using 36 KiB of memory
> Dampening enabled.
>
> Neighbor        V    AS MsgRcvd MsgSent   TblVer  InQ OutQ Up/Down
>  State/PfxRcd
> 187.16.216.253  4 26162 46101537 1851723        0    0    0 04w5d23h
> 150740
> 187.16.216.254  4 26162 44606171 1851158        0    0    0 08w5d20h
> 150418
> 187.16.223.253  4 26162 41904613 1851010        0    0    0 06w0d23h
> 150304
> 187.16.223.254  4 26162 45010457 1851243        0    0    0 04w5d23h
> 150675
>
> Total number of neighbors 4
> lg.sp.ptt.br> show
>   bgp          BGP information
>   history      Display the session command history
>   ip           IP information
>   ipv6         IP information
>   logging      Show current logging configuration
>   memory       Memory statistics
>   thread       Thread information
>   version      Displays zebra version
>   work-queues  Work Queue information
> lg.sp.ptt.br> show version
> Quagga 0.99.20.1 (lg.sp.ptt.br).
> Copyright 1996-2005 Kunihiro Ishiguro, et al.
> lg.sp.ptt.br>
> IX.br uses quagga, including in Curitiba
>
>  telnet lg.pr.ptt.br
> Trying 200.238.132.29...
> Connected to lg.pr.ix.br.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> ==============================================
> =            IX.br de Curitiba/PR            =
> =            Contact:  eng en ix.br             =
> =              +55 11 5509-3550              =
> =                                            =
> =                                            =
> =          Looking Glass Server              =
> =   All connections and keystrokes logged    =
> ==============================================
>
>
> lg.pr.ix.br> show version
> Quagga 0.99.24.1 (lg.pr.ix.br).
> Copyright 1996-2005 Kunihiro Ishiguro, et al.
> configured with:
>     --build=x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --includedir=${prefix}/include
> --mandir=${prefix}/share/man --infodir=${prefix}/share/info
> --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --disable-silent-rules
> --libexecdir=${prefix}/lib/quagga --disable-maintainer-mode
> --disable-dependency-tracking
> --enable-exampledir=/usr/share/doc/quagga/examples/
> --localstatedir=/var/run/quagga --sbindir=/usr/lib/quagga
> --sysconfdir=/etc/quagga --enable-vtysh --enable-isisd --enable-watchquagga
> --enable-ospf-te --enable-opaque-lsa --enable-ipv6 --enable-ospfclient=yes
> --enable-ospfapi=yes --enable-multipath=64 --enable-user=quagga
> --enable-group=quagga --enable-vty-group=quaggavty
> --enable-configfile-mask=0640 --enable-logfile-mask=0640 --enable-rtadv
> --enable-gcc-rdynamic --enable-pimd --with-libpam CFLAGS=-g -O2 -fPIE
> -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security
> CPPFLAGS=-Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 CXXFLAGS=-g -O2 -fPIE
> -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security FCFLAGS=-g -O2
> -fPIE -fstack-protector-strong FFLAGS=-g -O2 -fPIE -fstack-protector-strong
> GCJFLAGS=-g -O2 -fPIE -fstack-protector-strong
> LDFLAGS=-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -fPIE -pie -Wl,-z,relro -Wl,-z,now
> OBJCFLAGS=-g -O2 -fPIE -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat
> -Werror=format-security OBJCXXFLAGS=-g -O2 -fPIE -fstack-protector-strong
> -Wformat -Werror=format-security
> lg.pr.ix.br>
>
>
> Em qui., 1 de abr. de 2021 às 11:02, Luiz Gustavo <luizgb en gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
> > Hi Lucas,
> >
> > Just to be clear. I am talking about IXP infrastructure and not the
> > participant. I said Bird is the choice for the majority of IXPs for route
> > server, which is not related to what the participant decides to use (MK,
> > Juniper, Huawei, Cisco, etc...).
> > For example: IX.br, DE-CIX, AMS-IX, LINX, they all use Bird for their
> > route servers.
> >
> >
> > Att.
> > Luiz Gustavo Barros
> > UEPG
> >
> >
> > Em qui., 1 de abr. de 2021 às 10:29, Lucas Willian Bocchi <
> > lucas.bocchi en gmail.com> escreveu:
> >
> >> Leandro
> >>
> >> FRR already have RPKI / IXP Manager Support.
> >> And, as far I know, the people are using more MIKROTIK, juniper, huawey
> >> solutions on BGP. In open-source environment, I glad if you can send any
> >> documentation that can confirm your affirmations.
> >>
> >> Em qui., 1 de abr. de 2021 às 10:22, Luiz Gustavo <luizgb en gmail.com>
> >> escreveu:
> >>
> >>> Hi Leandro,
> >>>
> >>> I am a tech lead of an IXP in southern Brazil and at the beginning of
> >>> our operation I also had some questions about how to start it.
> >>> As Rubens said, you may start with IXP Manager which covers 90% of use
> >>> cases (maybe 100% when you are starting). It includes a default
> template
> >>> for Bird which implements a lot of well-known best practices and route
> >>> filtering. I also recommend using Bird v2 which have RPKI support. I
> also
> >>> preferred a "cisco-like" interface, but for a route server Bird is the
> >>> choice for the majority of IXPs. It just takes some time to get used
> to its
> >>> commands.
> >>> You may check MANRS IXP Programme [1] to to start your operation
> >>> foreseeing to comply with the good practices that the initiative
> recommends.
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://www.manrs.org/ixps/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Att.
> >>> Luiz Gustavo Barros
> >>> UEPG
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Em qui., 1 de abr. de 2021 às 09:59, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk en gmail.com>
> >>> escreveu:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It was supposed to be in but it was indeed delayed. But while it's not
> >>>> multithreaded as of now 2021 April 1st, it's coming real soon.
> >>>>
> >>>> And when coupled with support of automated config from IXP Manager,
> >>>> choosing Bird v2 is still my suggestion. Besides IX's with 1000+
> members,
> >>>> non mutlithreaded will get you far for the time being.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Rubens
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 9:54 AM Lucas Willian Bocchi <
> >>>> lucas.bocchi en gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Rubens
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At least thread that I follow
> >>>>>
> https://bird.network.cz/pipermail/bird-users/2020-January/014161.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I won't see any notice that it's released a multithread version.
> >>>>> On NEWS file on git
> >>>>> https://gitlab.nic.cz/labs/bird/-/blob/master/NEWS
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I won't see anything too. If you know anything different, please
> >>>>> advise me!!! I really won't see any news about multithread support
> on bird.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Em qui., 1 de abr. de 2021 às 09:40, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk en gmail.com>
> >>>>> escreveu:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Are you saying BIRDv2 is not multithreaded ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Rubens
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 8:45 AM Lucas Willian Bocchi <
> >>>>>> lucas.bocchi en gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Su puedo ayudar, un software más "cisco-like" y multithread (bird,
> >>>>>>> hasta el momiento, no eres) es
> >>>>>>> https://frrouting.org/
> >>>>>>> Pero bird eres muy bueno también.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Em qui., 1 de abr. de 2021 às 08:39, Rubens Kuhl <
> rubensk en gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> escreveu:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> https://www.ixpmanager.org/ for overall management and Bird v2
> >>>>>>>> (2.0.8 as of today, https://bird.network.cz/ ) for route server.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Although you might be starting small, automate everything from day
> >>>>>>>> 1.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Rubens
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 8:34 AM Leandro Roggerone <
> >>>>>>>> leandro en tecnetmza.com.ar> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Buen día, mi nombre es Leandro . de Mendoza Argentina.
> >>>>>>>>> Escribo para consultar por algun appliance / soft recomendado
> para
> >>>>>>>>> utilizar en el diseño de nuestro primer punto de intercambio.
> >>>>>>>>> Actualmente cuento con un switch Arista con muy buena capacidad
> de
> >>>>>>>>> puertos.
> >>>>>>>>> Lo que no tengo definido es como armar el route server.
> >>>>>>>>> Pronto comenzaré a analizar  propuestas de software libre como
> >>>>>>>>> quagga , bird , exabgp y frr.
> >>>>>>>>> Desde ya les agradezco cualquier aporte que puedan brindarme con
> >>>>>>>>> respecto a este tema.
> >>>>>>>>> Muchas gracias,
> >>>>>>>>> Leandro.
> >>>>>>>>>
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