[lacnog] IETF y diversidad (Fwd: Re: [Gendispatch] draft charter text: terminology-related WG)

Fernando Gont fgont en si6networks.com
Lun Feb 15 01:52:32 -03 2021


Estimades,

En la lista de gendispatch de IETF 
(https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gendispatch) se está discutiendo 
el tema de diversidad, incluyendo cuestiones como diversidad geografica, 
y otras tantas (cosas que afectan directamente a la participación desde 
la región).

No veo a nadie de la region.

No deberia el/los chairs de este grupo (ietf-lac), minimamente, 
participar en dicha discusión?

Sino pareciera que el grupo ietf-lac@ se tratara de un brazo de 
"outreach" de IETF, lo cual sería bastante preocupante.....

Saludos,
Fernando




-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] draft charter text: terminology-related WG
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2021 20:15:00 -0800
From: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf en elandsys.com>
To: Jay Daley <jay en ietf.org>, gendispatch en ietf.org

Dear Mr Daley,
At 12:24 PM 14-02-2021, Jay Daley wrote:
>Having wealthy, credentialed, [removed] people take the issue of 
>diversity and inclusivity seriously enough to try to explicitly and 
>publicly change their behaviours is to me neither patronising nor 
>disempowering, but rather it is both heartening and solidarity 
>building.  The alternative of wealthy, credentialed, [removed] 
>people not wishing to do that makes me wary that either they are 
>racist, or sympathise with racists, or seek to diminish or ignore 
>the historic impact of racism.  To use modern terminology, the 
>difference is between feeling "safe" and "unsafe".
>
>This wariness directly affects participation - if there is a 
>decision to be made on where to direct resources then (on average) 
>the "unsafe" organisation loses out.

How does the wariness affect IETF participation?

Is the (current) IETF viewed as an "unsafe" organisation?

What is your opinion about 
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/edu-team/aXsNAGUHJe_nPGKxebRS7GdCXzU/

Regards,
S. Moonesamy
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