[lacnog] IETF y diversidad (Fwd: Re: [Gendispatch] draft charter text: terminology-related WG)

[Fernando Frediani]

Hola Fernando

¿Qué significa la palabra "Estimades" en idioma Español?

Fernando

On 15/02/2021 01:52, Fernando Gont wrote:
> Estimades,
>
> En la lista de gendispatch de IETF 
> (https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gendispatch) se está 
> discutiendo el tema de diversidad, incluyendo cuestiones como 
> diversidad geografica, y otras tantas (cosas que afectan directamente 
> a la participación desde la región).
>
> No veo a nadie de la region.
>
> No deberia el/los chairs de este grupo (ietf-lac), minimamente, 
> participar en dicha discusión?
>
> Sino pareciera que el grupo ietf-lac@ se tratara de un brazo de 
> "outreach" de IETF, lo cual sería bastante preocupante.....
>
> Saludos,
> Fernando
>
>
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] draft charter text: terminology-related WG
> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2021 20:15:00 -0800
> From: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf en elandsys.com>
> To: Jay Daley <jay en ietf.org>, gendispatch en ietf.org
>
> Dear Mr Daley,
> At 12:24 PM 14-02-2021, Jay Daley wrote:
>> Having wealthy, credentialed, [removed] people take the issue of 
>> diversity and inclusivity seriously enough to try to explicitly and 
>> publicly change their behaviours is to me neither patronising nor 
>> disempowering, but rather it is both heartening and solidarity 
>> building.  The alternative of wealthy, credentialed, [removed] people 
>> not wishing to do that makes me wary that either they are racist, or 
>> sympathise with racists, or seek to diminish or ignore the historic 
>> impact of racism.  To use modern terminology, the difference is 
>> between feeling "safe" and "unsafe".
>>
>> This wariness directly affects participation - if there is a decision 
>> to be made on where to direct resources then (on average) the 
>> "unsafe" organisation loses out.
>
> How does the wariness affect IETF participation?
>
> Is the (current) IETF viewed as an "unsafe" organisation?
>
> What is your opinion about 
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/edu-team/aXsNAGUHJe_nPGKxebRS7GdCXzU/
>
> Regards,
> S. Moonesamy