[LACNIC/Politicas] Defining routing abuse

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ]

El 12/4/19 16:34, "Arturo Servin" <arturo.servin at gmail.com> escribió:

 

 

Me referia a referencias donde diga que:

 

RIPE stands for the community = LACNIC (community)

 

RIPE NCC stands for the organization = LACNIC organization 

 

Para mi LACNIC es uno solo y no hay la separacion que existe en RIPE. Lo cual conlleva a todos los puntos de vista diferentes de lo que ha pasado en esta discusion.

 

Referencias:

https://www.lacnic.net/27/1/lacnic/comunidad

 

https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe

 

LACNIC es una organización de miembros. En eso estamos de acuerdo?

 

Pero LACNIC también es la comunidad de la región. Si quieres cámbiale el nombre (por eso he dicho comunidad LACNIC). Las reuniones de la comunidad de LACNIC son abiertas a toda la comunidad.

 

Incluso LACNIC (organización) es mas abierto porque permite la asistencia la parte de membresía a *no-miembros* (sin voz ni voto). Tanto en el caso de LACNIC, como de APNIC como de AfriNIC, suelo asistir, pues me gusta estar al tanto de los detalles de membresía (aun no siendo miembro), que quieras que no afectan al funcionamiento de las políticas y la comunidad.

 

Las reuniones de RIPE son abiertas a toda la comunidad. La organización es RIPE NCC. La reunión de miembros en este caso es *cerrada* solo pueden asistir los miembros. Yo he asistido una sola vez (no soy miembro), por invitación explicita del presidente del directorio.

 

Es una cuestión de nomenclatura, pero la coincidencia existe. Es igual el caso de LACNIC al de ARIN, AfriNIC y APNIC. RIPE es el único que lo “diferencia” y es pura nomenclatura.

 

Y de "In LACNIC there is no such thing as an addressing policy, it is the Policy Development Process (PDP), which is for *anything* related to policies for the LAC region."

 

IMO el PDP = addressing policy nada mas. Igual que lo anterior, creo que es la base de nuestras diferencias de opinion en este tema.

 

Puede ser, ahí tenemos otro hilo …

 

Saludos

as

 

 

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 2:19 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Politicas <politicas at lacnic.net> wrote:

No se si es que no te he entiendo :-) , pues me parece que pedir una referencia del PDP, en la lista del PDP, es un poco excesivo!



https://www.lacnic.net/542/1/lacnic/





El PDP lo indica bien claro.



Por cierto, este comentario dirigido al staff:
En el segundo párrafo del PDP, hay una errata, igual he pasado por ella mil veces y nunca me he dado cuenta.
Saludos,

Jordi







El 12/4/19 14:55, "Arturo Servin" <arturo.servin at gmail.com> escribió:







On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 1:49 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Politicas <politicas at lacnic.net> wrote:

I said the communities, not the organizations. We have 5 regions, 1 global community, 5 regional communities. There are small cultural differences, differences in the PDPs, differences in their "organizations" (RIRs), and sometimes differences in the policies, but most of the time, actually all the policies are converging into the same, because there is a single Internet and what we do in one region also affects other regions, and the world is every day more global for everything, not just Internet.

RIPE stands for the community = LACNIC (community)

RIPE NCC stands for the organization = LACNIC organization 


In LACNIC there is no such thing as an addressing policy, it is the Policy Development Process (PDP), which is for *anything* related to policies for the LAC region.



References please.



Otherwise it is your opinion.



Regards

as



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