[LACNIC/Politicas] Nueva propuesta LAC-2020-1 / Nova proposta LAC-2020-1 / New proposal LAC-2020-1
JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
jordi.palet at consulintel.es
Sun Jan 19 20:23:03 -02 2020
Hola Fernando,
Mil gracias por esta propuesta. Me parece muy importante y necesaria.
Mis comentarios podrían variar en función de la traducción al Castellano, tal y como comenté en otra propuesta anterior, ya que solo el texto en Castellano es el oficial para el manual de políticas, pero supongo que sería fácil resolverlo (si fuera el caso) cuando tengamos la traducción.
Aunque no es texto de la política (y por lo tanto no podría ser hecho efectivo), no estoy de acuerdo con "In the case the receiver provides a written statement from its upstream that IPv6 connectivity is unavailable, the IPv6 requirement may be waived.".
NO hay excusas, bajo mi punto de vista, para tener un upstream provider que tenga soporte de IPv6, ya que, si es preciso, se puede usar un túnel, incluso con soporte BGP. Yo he trabajado en varios casos en los que esto ocurría y siempre lo hemos podido resolver, pues los "upstream" providers del uptream provider, lo pueden proporcionar, además que hay upstream providers que lo ofrecen incluso sin coste.
Para el texto de la propuesta, he hecho un diff-online que me ha ayudado a revisar las diferencias y supongo que puede ser útil para otros:
https://www.diffchecker.com/MaapyXNc
Creo que hay algo que debemos considerar, y es que tal y como esta redactada la propuesta solo afectaría a los ISPs (allocations), y no a los end-users (assignments). Creo que esto no es correcto y debería ser igual para ambos.
Por lo tanto, sugiero este cambio, que también tiene en cuenta mi comentario anterior de los upstream providers así como que en lugar de documentación, creo que el staff puede usar la recién aprobado política LAC-2019-9 para hacer esas verificaciones de forma automatizada y por tanto evitar la necesidad de generar documentación adicional o de revisarla, a ambas partes, en los casos en los que sea obvio que hay despliegue real de IPv6.
2.3.2.18.3 Receiving organization must have LACNIC allocated/assigned IPv6 space and be able to prove it is being used by providing LACNIC documented network deployment details to prove IPv6 is operational in significant parts of the network.
Regular LACNIC periodical verification (7.1) will be used to assess that IPv6 is operational, and if necessary, the staff may require further information to validate this requirement.
Saludos,
Jordi
@jordipalet
El 17/1/20 17:47, "Politicas en nombre de Fernando Frediani" <politicas-bounces at lacnic.net en nombre de fhfrediani at gmail.com> escribió:
Hola a todos.
Dos aclaraciones:
- El cambio principal en el texto propuesto se encuentra en el ítem
2.3.2.18.3. Todos los demás elementos siguientes permanecen sin cambios
y solo se vuelven a numerar al número siguiente .
- La forma en que se analizará esto no es diferente de lo que se ha
hecho para la justificativas de asignaciones de IPv4 a lo largo de los
años. El staff de RIR/NIR de la misma manera revisará las
justificaciones y también establecerá los criterios mínimos para esto.
Saludos cordiales
Fernando Frediani
On 17/01/2020 13:15, info-politicas at lacnic.net wrote:
> [Português abaixo]
> [English below]
>
> Estimados suscriptores de la Lista de Políticas de LACNIC,
>
> Se recibió una nueva propuesta de Política, se le asignó el id LAC-2020-1.
>
> Título: Add IPv6 operational as a requirement for IPv4 transfers
>
> Resumen: On 15th February 2017 LACNIC started IPv4 Exhaustion Phase 3 meaning only new entrants can receive up to a single /22 of IPv4 space. Since then the amount of IPv4 Transfers between organizations has increased reasonably as shown by the official LACNIC reports. With the implementation of LAC-2019-1 and possibility of Inter-RIR transfers these numbers have the potential to grow substantially.
>
> The objective of this proposal is to add as a requirement for organizations in process of receiving transferred IPv4 space under 2.3.2.18 to show they have an IPv6 allocation by LACNIC operational on their networks. Such organization must be able to prove this IPv6 space is being used by providing LACNIC the documented network deployment details to prove IPv6 is operational in significant parts of the network.
>
> On 28th November 2019 LACNIC Board issued a statement (https://www.lacnic.net/4283/2/lacnic/lacnic-board-calls-on-the-community-to-promote-ipv6-deployment) reinforcing the issue about IPv4 exhaustion, mentioning IPv4 address space will be exhausted by mid-2020 and calling the community to promote IPv6 deployment.
> In its statement LACNIC Board “invite the community to work on promoting the development of policies that will accelerate the effective deployment of IPv6 above other policies that may be discussed at a later date.”
>
> In the case the receiver provides a written statement from its upstream that IPv6 connectivity is unavailable, the IPv6 requirement may be waived.
>
> Para ver el detalle ingrese en:
> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/detail/id/LAC-2020-1
>
> Los comentarios y los puntos de vista aportados por la comunidad son vitales para el correcto desarrollo del proceso de la propuestas
> - ¿Apoya usted o se opone a esta propuesta?
> - ¿Esta propuesta resolvería un problema que usted está experimentando?- ¿Ve alguna desventaja en esta propuesta?
> - ¿Qué cambios podrían hacerse a esta propuesta para que sea más eficaz?
>
> Por más información contacte a info-politicas at lacnic.net
> Saludos cordiales,
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________________________________
>
> Prezados assinantes da lista de políticas de LACNIC,
>
> Foi recebida uma nova proposta de Política, foi atribuído o id LAC-2020-1.
>
> Título: Add IPv6 operational as a requirement for IPv4 transfers
>
> Resumo: On 15th February 2017 LACNIC started IPv4 Exhaustion Phase 3 meaning only new entrants can receive up to a single /22 of IPv4 space. Since then the amount of IPv4 Transfers between organizations has increased reasonably as shown by the official LACNIC reports. With the implementation of LAC-2019-1 and possibility of Inter-RIR transfers these numbers have the potential to grow substantially.
>
> The objective of this proposal is to add as a requirement for organizations in process of receiving transferred IPv4 space under 2.3.2.18 to show they have an IPv6 allocation by LACNIC operational on their networks. Such organization must be able to prove this IPv6 space is being used by providing LACNIC the documented network deployment details to prove IPv6 is operational in significant parts of the network.
>
> On 28th November 2019 LACNIC Board issued a statement (https://www.lacnic.net/4283/2/lacnic/lacnic-board-calls-on-the-community-to-promote-ipv6-deployment) reinforcing the issue about IPv4 exhaustion, mentioning IPv4 address space will be exhausted by mid-2020 and calling the community to promote IPv6 deployment.
> In its statement LACNIC Board “invite the community to work on promoting the development of policies that will accelerate the effective deployment of IPv6 above other policies that may be discussed at a later date.”
>
> In the case the receiver provides a written statement from its upstream that IPv6 connectivity is unavailable, the IPv6 requirement may be waived.
>
> Para ver o detalhe acesse:
> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/detail/id/LAC-2020-1
>
> Os comentários e os pontos de vista aportados pela comunidade são vitais para o bom desenvolvimento do processo das propostas
> - ¿Você é a favor ou contra desta proposta?
> - ¿Esta proposta iria resolver um problema que você está experimentando?- ¿Vê alguma alguma desvantagem nesta proposta?
> - ¿Que mudanças poderiam ser feitas à proposta para que seja mais eficaz?
>
> Por mais informações entre em contato conosco através do seguinte e-mail: info-politicas at lacnic.net
> Atenciosamente,
> ______________________________________________________________________________________________________
>
> Dear LACNIC Policy List subscribers,
>
> A new Policy Proposal has been received and assigned the following ID: LAC-2020-1.
>
> Title: Add IPv6 operational as a requirement for IPv4 transfers
>
> Summary: On 15th February 2017 LACNIC started IPv4 Exhaustion Phase 3 meaning only new entrants can receive up to a single /22 of IPv4 space. Since then the amount of IPv4 Transfers between organizations has increased reasonably as shown by the official LACNIC reports. With the implementation of LAC-2019-1 and possibility of Inter-RIR transfers these numbers have the potential to grow substantially.
>
> The objective of this proposal is to add as a requirement for organizations in process of receiving transferred IPv4 space under 2.3.2.18 to show they have an IPv6 allocation by LACNIC operational on their networks. Such organization must be able to prove this IPv6 space is being used by providing LACNIC the documented network deployment details to prove IPv6 is operational in significant parts of the network.
>
> On 28th November 2019 LACNIC Board issued a statement (https://www.lacnic.net/4283/2/lacnic/lacnic-board-calls-on-the-community-to-promote-ipv6-deployment) reinforcing the issue about IPv4 exhaustion, mentioning IPv4 address space will be exhausted by mid-2020 and calling the community to promote IPv6 deployment.
> In its statement LACNIC Board “invite the community to work on promoting the development of policies that will accelerate the effective deployment of IPv6 above other policies that may be discussed at a later date.”
>
> In the case the receiver provides a written statement from its upstream that IPv6 connectivity is unavailable, the IPv6 requirement may be waived.
>
> To read the proposal, please go to
> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/detail/id/LAC-2020-1
>
> The community's comments and opinions are essential to the proper functioning of the policy development process.
> - Do you support this policy or are you against it?
> - Would this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing?- Do you think this proposal has any drawbacks?
> - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?
>
> For further information, please contact info-politicas at lacnic.net
> Kind regards,
>
>
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