[LACNIC/Politicas] Nueva versión de la propuesta LAC-2020-1

Wed Apr 7 11:17:46 -03 2021

Estimados,

Coincido en todas las apreciaciones de Miguel.

No estoy de acuerdo con la propuesta  de base.
No creo que funcione la mecánica para lograr el objetivo deseado.

On 07/04/2021 10:50, Miguel A. Brante wrote:
> Hola a todos, 
>
>
> Entiendo y hasta apoyo el fondo de esta propuesta, sin embargo no comparto en lo absoluto la forma.
>
> El poner una presión artificial para la adopción de IPv6 para quienes tengan la urgencia de recibir recursos IPv4, tendrá como resultado que se hagan transacciones en el mercado externo y quizá fuera de los marcos regulatorios del RIR.
> En el mejor de los casos podría provocar implementaciones apuradas, pobres o disfuncionales con el fin de cumplir un mero requisito. Al final del día, LACNIC no va a tener ni la capacidad ni la potestad de auditar la implementación que he puesto en el papel.
>
> Veo mucho más positivo fomentar la adopción de IPv6 mediante argumentos y no mediante barreras y/u obligaciones que a mi parecer no harán un cambio significativo.
>
> Saludos
>
> Miguel Brante
>
>
> ----- Mensaje original -----
> De: info-politicas at lacnic.net
> Para: "Lista para discusion de politicas de la comunidad de LACNIC" <politicas at lacnic.net>
> Enviados: Miércoles, 31 de Marzo 2021 11:37:37
> Asunto: [LACNIC/Politicas] Nueva versión de la propuesta LAC-2020-1
>
> [Português abaixo]
> [English below]
>
> Estimados suscriptores de la lista de políticas de LACNIC,
>
> La propuesta LAC-2020-1 ha pasado de la versión 3 a la versión 4
>
> Título: Agregar IPv6 operativo como requisito para las transferencias de IPv4
>
> Resumen: On 15th February 2017 LACNIC started IPv4 Exhaustion Phase 3 meaning only new entrants can receive up to a single /22 of IPv4 space. Since then the amount of IPv4 Transfers between organizations has increased reasonably as shown by the official LACNIC reports. With the implementation of LAC-2019-1 and possibility of Inter-RIR transfers these numbers have the potential to grow substantially.
>
> The objective of this proposal is to add as a requirement for organizations in process of receiving transferred IPv4 space under 2.3.2.18 to show they have an IPv6 allocation/assignment by LACNIC or a provider and that is operational on their networks. Such organization must be able to prove this IPv6 space is being used by providing LACNIC the documented network deployment details to prove IPv6 is operational in significant parts of the network.
>
> On 28th November 2019 LACNIC Board issued a statement (https://www.lacnic.net/4283/2/lacnic/lacnic-board-calls-on-the-community-to-promote-ipv6-deployment) reinforcing the issue about IPv4 exhaustion, mentioning IPv4 address space will be exhausted by mid-2020 and calling the community to promote IPv6 deployment.
> In its statement LACNIC Board “invite the community to work on promoting the development of policies that will accelerate the effective deployment of IPv6 above other policies that may be discussed at a later date.”
>
> In the case the receiver provides a written statement from its upstream that IPv6 connectivity is unavailable, the IPv6 requirement may be waived. In the case LACNIC is not able to meet a new entrant request for IPv4 space, or the organization does not hold any IPv4 space the IPv6 requirement may be waived for a transfer up to a /22.
>
> Para ver el detalle ingrese en:
> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/detail/id/LAC-2020-1/language/sp
>
> Los cambios respecto a la versión anterior se pueden visualizar aquí:
> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/diff2?id=LAC-2020-1&v=4&v2=3&language=SP
>
> Los comentarios y los puntos de vista aportados por la comunidad son vitales para el correcto desarrollo del proceso de la propuestas
> - ¿Apoya usted o se opone a esta nueva versión de la propuesta?
> - ¿Ve alguna desventaja en esta nueva versión de la propuesta?
> - ¿Qué cambios podrían hacerse a esta nueva versión de la propuesta para que sea más eficaz?
>
>
> Por más información contacte a info-politicas at lacnic.net
> Saludos cordiales, 
> ______________________________________________________________________________________________________
> Prezados assinantes da lista de políticas de LACNIC,
>
> A proposta LAC-2020-1 tem passado da versão 3 para a versão 4
>
> Título: Adicionar IPv6 operacional como requisito para as transferências do IPv4
>
> Resumo: On 15th February 2017 LACNIC started IPv4 Exhaustion Phase 3 meaning only new entrants can receive up to a single /22 of IPv4 space. Since then the amount of IPv4 Transfers between organizations has increased reasonably as shown by the official LACNIC reports. With the implementation of LAC-2019-1 and possibility of Inter-RIR transfers these numbers have the potential to grow substantially.
>
> The objective of this proposal is to add as a requirement for organizations in process of receiving transferred IPv4 space under 2.3.2.18 to show they have an IPv6 allocation/assignment by LACNIC or a provider and that is operational on their networks. Such organization must be able to prove this IPv6 space is being used by providing LACNIC the documented network deployment details to prove IPv6 is operational in significant parts of the network.
>
> On 28th November 2019 LACNIC Board issued a statement (https://www.lacnic.net/4283/2/lacnic/lacnic-board-calls-on-the-community-to-promote-ipv6-deployment) reinforcing the issue about IPv4 exhaustion, mentioning IPv4 address space will be exhausted by mid-2020 and calling the community to promote IPv6 deployment.
> In its statement LACNIC Board “invite the community to work on promoting the development of policies that will accelerate the effective deployment of IPv6 above other policies that may be discussed at a later date.”
>
> In the case the receiver provides a written statement from its upstream that IPv6 connectivity is unavailable, the IPv6 requirement may be waived. In the case LACNIC is not able to meet a new entrant request for IPv4 space, or the organization does not hold any IPv4 space the IPv6 requirement may be waived for a transfer up to a /22.
>
> Para ver o detalhe acesse:
> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/detail/id/LAC-2020-1/language/pt
>
> As alterações da versão anterior podem ser vistas aqui:
> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/diff2?id=LAC-2020-1&v=4&v2=3&language=PT
>
>  Os comentários e os pontos de vista aportados pela comunidade são
> vitais para o bom desenvolvimento do processo das propostas
> - Você está a favor ou em contra desta nova versão
>  da proposta?- Vê alguma desvantagem nesta nova versão
>  da proposta?
>
> - Que mudanças poderiam ser feitas à esta nova versão
>  da proposta para que seja mais eficaz?
>
> Por mais informações entre em contato conosco através do e-mail:
> info-politicas at lacnic.net.
>
> Atenciosamente,
> ______________________________________________________________________________________________________
>
> Dear LACNIC Policy List subscribers,
>
> Proposal LAC-2020-1 has been updated from version 3 to version 4
>
> Title: Add IPv6 operational as a requirement for IPv4 transfers
>
> Summary: On 15th February 2017 LACNIC started IPv4 Exhaustion Phase 3 meaning only new entrants can receive up to a single /22 of IPv4 space. Since then the amount of IPv4 Transfers between organizations has increased reasonably as shown by the official LACNIC reports. With the implementation of LAC-2019-1 and possibility of Inter-RIR transfers these numbers have the potential to grow substantially.
>
> The objective of this proposal is to add as a requirement for organizations in process of receiving transferred IPv4 space under 2.3.2.18 to show they have an IPv6 allocation/assignment by LACNIC or a provider and that is operational on their networks. Such organization must be able to prove this IPv6 space is being used by providing LACNIC the documented network deployment details to prove IPv6 is operational in significant parts of the network.
>
> On 28th November 2019 LACNIC Board issued a statement (https://www.lacnic.net/4283/2/lacnic/lacnic-board-calls-on-the-community-to-promote-ipv6-deployment) reinforcing the issue about IPv4 exhaustion, mentioning IPv4 address space will be exhausted by mid-2020 and calling the community to promote IPv6 deployment.
> In its statement LACNIC Board “invite the community to work on promoting the development of policies that will accelerate the effective deployment of IPv6 above other policies that may be discussed at a later date.”
>
> In the case the receiver provides a written statement from its upstream that IPv6 connectivity is unavailable, the IPv6 requirement may be waived. In the case LACNIC is not able to meet a new entrant request for IPv4 space, or the organization does not hold any IPv4 space the IPv6 requirement may be waived for a transfer up to a /22.
>
> To see the details, please click on:
> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/detail/id/LAC-2020-1/language/en
>
> The changes from the previous version can be seen here:
> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/diff2?id=LAC-2020-1&v=4&v2=3&language=EN
>
> The community's comments and opinions are essential to the proper functioning of the policy development process.
> - Do you support this new version of the proposal or are you against it?
> - Do you think this new version of the proposal has any drawbacks?
> - What changes could be made to this new version of the proposal to make it more effective?
>
> For further information, please contact info-politicas at lacnic.net
> Kind regards,
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