[Ietf-lac] FW: Document language editing session in London

[Alvaro Retana (aretana)]

FYI

Una buena iniciativa para mejorar la calidad de los documentos del
IETF..pero hay que estar presente en Londres.

A pesar de que inglés no es el primer idioma de la mayoría de nosotros,
estoy seguro de que si alguien está interesado en ayuda con el idioma
vamos a encontrar mucha gente dispuesta en esta lista.

Saludos!

Alvaro.

On 1/16/14 9:03 PM, "Ted Lemon" <ted.lemon at nominum.com> wrote:

>Dear WG Chairs:
>
>The IESG has decided to repeat the experiment that we tried in Berlin at
>the upcoming London IETF meeting.   We would like to invite ten document
>authors to a language editing session in London on the Saturday prior to
>the IETF meeting.   The goal of this editing session will be for two area
>directors, me and Joel Jaeggli, to each sit with a group of five document
>editors and work on each editors' document for 30 minutes in a group
>setting.   Benoit Claise has also offered to help if there are any
>French-speaking authors who would like to participate.
>
>The plan for this work is to do two things: first, to review the
>documents, and secondly, for the participants to have the opportunity to
>work with Joel or with me to improve the quality of their documents.
>The goal is specifically for non-native english speakers who have
>documents that the working group considers important, but which are felt
>to need help with english language editing.   It is important that the
>authors _want_ to get help‹that they recognize that they could use help
>and that they are comfortable getting that help in a small group setting.
>
>What the meeting will look like is that there will be one or two tables
>in a meeting room; I will be at one table with five authors and a
>representative from the RFC Editor.   Joel will be at a separate table,
>with the same arrangement.   If there aren't enough authors, we may do a
>single table, as we did in Berlin.
>
>Each of us will have briefly reviewed the five documents prior to the
>meeting, and we expect that the authors will be familiar with each
>others' documents as well.   For thirty minutes per document, we will sit
>with the author and go over the document, offering comments and
>suggestions and getting feedback from the author.   The other authors
>will follow this. Then we will move on to the next author.   Joel will be
>doing the same thing at the other table.   The RFC Editor will be
>observing and offering advice on request, or if they can't resist, but
>the main goal is to take advantage of the technical editorial expertise
>of the two ADs for this experiment.   At the end of the editing session,
>we will have a half hour session where we talk about what went well, if
>anything, and what went wrong, if anything, and how we might do it better
>next time.
>
>Neither Joel nor I are experts on teaching english to non-native
>speakers, so we do not claim any specific knowledge other than that we
>both have a keen interest in improving the quality of IETF documents, a
>fair amount of experience in at least trying to do so, and a desire to
>help our colleagues to accomplish their goals.
>
>Our desired outcome from this meeting is twofold: first, to help the
>specific authors who attend; secondly, to learn how to help authors in
>general: what frustrations they have in writing documents for IETF, what
>stumbling blocks they trip over, and how we can help them.
>
>What we are asking working group chairs to do is think about whether
>there are documents in their working group that could use this sort of
>help.   If you believe there are, please contact the authors of those
>documents and ask them in a non-pushy way whether they would like to
>participate in this experiment.   Please let us know if any of your
>authors are interested in this.   If you have more than one document that
>you'd like worked on, please tell us which one is most important to you.
> We will have to do a triage process unless the response to this call for
>participants is tiny, so it's likely that we will only take the document
>you think is more important.   If we get a really good response, we won't
>be able to take documents from every working group that responds; please
>don't take this as a criticism if your document isn't chosen.
>
>If you think this is a good idea and want to take advantage of it, please
>contact your authors as soon as possible, so that they can make travel
>plans that allow them to get to the venue on Saturday rather than on
>Sunday.   Please bear in mind that the document selection process will
>take time, and set your authors' expectations appropriately.
>
>We will arrange for authors who wish to attend and who are selected to
>receive invitations, so that they can justify the early arrival to their
>management if necessary.
>
>Thanks!
>