[Ietf-lac] FW: Document language editing session in London

[Carlos M. Martinez]

Alvaro,

a mi me gustaría participar. ¿Como es el mecanismo?

s2

~Carlos

On 1/17/14, 5:58 PM, Alvaro Retana (aretana) wrote:
> FYI
> 
> Una buena iniciativa para mejorar la calidad de los documentos del
> IETF..pero hay que estar presente en Londres.
> 
> A pesar de que inglés no es el primer idioma de la mayoría de nosotros,
> estoy seguro de que si alguien está interesado en ayuda con el idioma
> vamos a encontrar mucha gente dispuesta en esta lista.
> 
> Saludos!
> 
> Alvaro.
> 
> On 1/16/14 9:03 PM, "Ted Lemon" <ted.lemon at nominum.com> wrote:
> 
>> Dear WG Chairs:
>>
>> The IESG has decided to repeat the experiment that we tried in Berlin at
>> the upcoming London IETF meeting.   We would like to invite ten document
>> authors to a language editing session in London on the Saturday prior to
>> the IETF meeting.   The goal of this editing session will be for two area
>> directors, me and Joel Jaeggli, to each sit with a group of five document
>> editors and work on each editors' document for 30 minutes in a group
>> setting.   Benoit Claise has also offered to help if there are any
>> French-speaking authors who would like to participate.
>>
>> The plan for this work is to do two things: first, to review the
>> documents, and secondly, for the participants to have the opportunity to
>> work with Joel or with me to improve the quality of their documents.
>> The goal is specifically for non-native english speakers who have
>> documents that the working group considers important, but which are felt
>> to need help with english language editing.   It is important that the
>> authors _want_ to get help‹that they recognize that they could use help
>> and that they are comfortable getting that help in a small group setting.
>>
>> What the meeting will look like is that there will be one or two tables
>> in a meeting room; I will be at one table with five authors and a
>> representative from the RFC Editor.   Joel will be at a separate table,
>> with the same arrangement.   If there aren't enough authors, we may do a
>> single table, as we did in Berlin.
>>
>> Each of us will have briefly reviewed the five documents prior to the
>> meeting, and we expect that the authors will be familiar with each
>> others' documents as well.   For thirty minutes per document, we will sit
>> with the author and go over the document, offering comments and
>> suggestions and getting feedback from the author.   The other authors
>> will follow this. Then we will move on to the next author.   Joel will be
>> doing the same thing at the other table.   The RFC Editor will be
>> observing and offering advice on request, or if they can't resist, but
>> the main goal is to take advantage of the technical editorial expertise
>> of the two ADs for this experiment.   At the end of the editing session,
>> we will have a half hour session where we talk about what went well, if
>> anything, and what went wrong, if anything, and how we might do it better
>> next time.
>>
>> Neither Joel nor I are experts on teaching english to non-native
>> speakers, so we do not claim any specific knowledge other than that we
>> both have a keen interest in improving the quality of IETF documents, a
>> fair amount of experience in at least trying to do so, and a desire to
>> help our colleagues to accomplish their goals.
>>
>> Our desired outcome from this meeting is twofold: first, to help the
>> specific authors who attend; secondly, to learn how to help authors in
>> general: what frustrations they have in writing documents for IETF, what
>> stumbling blocks they trip over, and how we can help them.
>>
>> What we are asking working group chairs to do is think about whether
>> there are documents in their working group that could use this sort of
>> help.   If you believe there are, please contact the authors of those
>> documents and ask them in a non-pushy way whether they would like to
>> participate in this experiment.   Please let us know if any of your
>> authors are interested in this.   If you have more than one document that
>> you'd like worked on, please tell us which one is most important to you.
>> We will have to do a triage process unless the response to this call for
>> participants is tiny, so it's likely that we will only take the document
>> you think is more important.   If we get a really good response, we won't
>> be able to take documents from every working group that responds; please
>> don't take this as a criticism if your document isn't chosen.
>>
>> If you think this is a good idea and want to take advantage of it, please
>> contact your authors as soon as possible, so that they can make travel
>> plans that allow them to get to the venue on Saturday rather than on
>> Sunday.   Please bear in mind that the document selection process will
>> take time, and set your authors' expectations appropriately.
>>
>> We will arrange for authors who wish to attend and who are selected to
>> receive invitations, so that they can justify the early arrival to their
>> management if necessary.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
> 
> _____________________________________________
> Ietf-lac mailing list
> Ietf-lac at lacnog.org
> Cancelar suscripcion: ietf-lac-unsubscribe at lacnog.org
>