[LACNIC/Politicas] Costos por IP al Agotamiento de IPv4

[Hannigan, Martin]

Hi Arturo,

Not much of a model aside from what I used as the "market maker". There has
been significant amounts of eBay activity in the past and there also has
been a paid "transfer of assets" observed in an RIR region[a] that had been
documented and both numbers coincide. The first reference was based on the
attempted transfer of a /24 on eBay and the bid price that I have access to
is $4. The second transfer that was attempted was executed for ~$250,000 and
with the expenses brought it to a similar cost.

Since this was a lightening talk, I opted to utilize the publicly available
reference materials versus some extended research since I felt that this was
"reasonable".

For both references to $4, see [1] noted in the presentation.


Best,

-M<


[a] eBay does not allow the auction of IPV4 addresses and shuts down the
auctions when notified. The [un]fortunate effect is that we never see the
auctions get to the closing, the last 60s of the auction, where all of the
real pricing action takes place. Based on that, I think that my $4 number is
actually unrealistically "low".




On 10/11/10 10:03 AM, "Arturo Servin" <aservin at lacnic.net> wrote:

> Hi Martin,
> 
> You have an interesting point in your presentation and how in a long/mid/short
> term IPv4 could be more costly than IPv6. From a research point of view (which
> is another interest to me), do you have some references about your
> mathematical model? (I am thinking about the 4 USD per address, how did you
> get it?)
> 
> I couldn't find them in your presentation and I think it would be an
> interesting reading.
> 
> Best wishes,
> -asn
> 
> On 11 Oct 2010, at 03:31, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hola Arturo:
>> 
>> Mi espanol no bueno; I will reply in English. I apologize in advance.
>> 
>> I agree, it's a moot point, mostly. For example, if we compare the amount of
>> press the y2k software issue was receiving in YR 2000 at a similar time
>> period prior to the actual event taking place we are nowhere near that level
>> of interest with IPv6 transition.  I would argue that this may be even
>> bigger. 
>> 
>> I'm not sure this issue is so finite after all. But if you imply it's time
>> to get moving with IPV6, I agree.
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> -M<
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/7/10 6:38 AM, "Arturo Servin" <aservin at lacnic.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Interesante, aunque como todos estos temas debatibles.
>>> 
>>> Me recuerda a aquellos años a principios del milenio donde se discutía la
>>> terminación de IPv4 y la confiabilidad de los modelos.
>>> 
>>> Saludos,
>>> -as
>>> 
>>> On 6 Oct 2010, at 11:53, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ayer en NANOG 50 Martin Hannigan presento un "lightning talk" en el cual
>>>> hace un analisis de costos de las direcciones IPv4 en el momento del
>>>> agotamiento.
>>>> 
>>>> Mas allá de que sus números puedan ser criticables, creo que el punto que
>>>> hace es mas que valido.
>>>> 
>>>> Les paso el link a la presentacion y a la planilla Excel con su modelo:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog50/presentations/Tuesday/NANOG50.Talk64.
>>>> ha
>>>> nnigan-ltalk-50.pdf
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog50/presentations/Tuesday/NANOG50.Talk64.
>>>> ha
>>>> nnigan-ltalk-50.xls
>>>> 
>>>> slds,
>>>> 
>>>> Carlos
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