[LACNIC/Politicas] [lacnog] Fwd: APNIC Announces its IPv4 Address Pool Reaches Final /8

Fri Apr 15 17:52:44 BRT 2011

Hola lista,
  ¿Que el prefijo sea anuncio por un as asignado por lacnic?. Entre otros

Saludos,

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Christian O'Flaherty
Enviados:  15/04/2011 15:34:40
Para: Latin America and Caribbean Region Network Operators Group
Cc: Tomas Lynch; politicas at lacnic.net; carlos at lacnic.net
Asunto:  Re: [LACNIC/Politicas] [lacnog] Fwd: APNIC Announces its IPv4 Address Pool Reaches Final /8

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Tomas Lynch <tomas.lynch at gmail.com> wrote:
> ¿Cómo se controla que se use en la región? Es decir, supongamos que
> una empresa de Asia recibe un prefijo de LACNIC, ¿cuántas veces es
> necesario detectarlo para decirle "por favor devuelva las redes"? Eso
> tendría que estar estipulado en la política.

Podríamos poner "que los recursos IP deberán estar configurados en
equipos instalados en la región" pero asi dejaremos la puerta abierta
a "trucos" que permitirán usar esos IP en otro lugar aunque estén
configurados en un router por aquí.

El objetivo de la propuesta es que el staff de Lacnic tenga respaldo
para poder rechazar un pedido de una empresa de otra región. Creo que
el texto debe ser bien simple y claro para que sea útil

Christian

>
> Tomás
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Christian O'Flaherty
> <christian.oflaherty at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Deberíamos tener una oración bien simple entre las políticas que diga
>> claramente que las direcciones IP que asigna Lacnic son para usarse en
>> nuestra región.
>> Enviaré una propuesta.
>>
>> Christian
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Nicolas Antoniello
>> <nantoniello at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> <chair hat = off>
>>>
>>> Todo es posible...
>>>
>>> Esa es una de las "alternativas" que en su momento algunos manejamos como
>>> mecanismos que van en favor de una corrida de solicitud de direcciones IPv4
>>> en nuestra región.
>>> Además, el hecho de que en nuestra región no sea necesario disponer de
>>> sistema autónomo (asignado por la propia LACNIC) para solicitar direcciones,
>>> hasta podría facilitar (aunque solo sea un poco) esa alternativa.
>>>
>>> Con esto no digo que sea bueno exigir AS para solicitar direcciones IP...
>>> sino que (en mi opinión) la ausencia podría simplificar la solicitud y el
>>> uso de las direcciones.
>>>
>>> La pregunta podría formularse de esta manera:
>>>
>>> - Con las políticas actuales, que impide que alguien que NO tenga Sistema
>>> Autónomo solicitado a LACNIC, haga un pedido de direcciones IP a LACNIC
>>> (porque tiene una parte de la empresa radicada en la region de LACNIC) y
>>> luego utilice esas direcciones publicándolas al mundo desde un AS de APNIC,
>>> RIPE, ARIN o AFRINIC ???
>>>
>>> Saludos,
>>> Nicolas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:02, Christian O'Flaherty
>>> <christian.oflaherty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Es posible que comiencen a radicarse empresas Asiaticas en Latam como
>>>> proveedores de servicio de Internet para conseguir direcciones IPv4 de
>>>> Lacnic? En algunos paises de nuestra región es muy simple radicar una
>>>> empresa para hacer eso.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo
>>>> <carlosm3011 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > FYI
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> > From: Axel Pawlik <no-reply at ripe.net>
>>>> > Date: Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 5:08 AM
>>>> > Subject: APNIC Announces its IPv4 Address Pool Reaches Final /8
>>>> > To: ncc-announce at ripe.net, ripe-list at ripe.net, ncc-services-wg at ripe.net
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > [Apologies for duplicate emails]
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Dear Colleagues,
>>>> >
>>>> > Today, Friday 15 April 2011, APNIC, the Regional Internet Registry
>>>> > (RIR) for the Asia Pacific region, announced that it has distributed
>>>> > the final IPv4 address space from its reserves of IPv4.
>>>> >
>>>> > This means that APNIC is now supplying IPv4 address space to its
>>>> > members from the last /8 it holds according to the guidelines in
>>>> > section 9.10 in "Policies for IPv4 address space management in the
>>>> > Asia Pacific region":
>>>> > http://www.apnic.net/policy/add-manage-policy
>>>> >
>>>> > This event does not affect the RIPE NCC's reserves of IPv4 address
>>>> > space and we will continue to distribute these resources to our
>>>> > members on the basis of need until we reach the last /8.
>>>> >
>>>> > According to RIPE Document ripe-509, section 5.6, once the RIPE NCC
>>>> > reaches the last /8 of IPv4 address space, each Local Internet
>>>> > Registry (LIR) can receive one /22 (1024 IPv4 addresses) upon
>>>> > application for IPv4 resources. In order to obtain this /22
>>>> > allocation, the LIR must already have an IPv6 allocation and have a
>>>> > demonstrated need for address space.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > IPv6 - Act Now
>>>> > ---------------
>>>> >
>>>> > The RIPE NCC cannot predict how long its own supply of IPv4 address
>>>> > space will last and has worked for several years to inform all
>>>> > stakeholders of the urgent need to deploy IPv6.
>>>> >
>>>> > It is now imperative that all stakeholders deploy IPv6 on their
>>>> > networks to ensure the continuity of their online operations and the
>>>> > long-term growth of the Internet.
>>>> >
>>>> > For more information on IPv6 and its deployment, advice from experts
>>>> > and where to get training, please see:
>>>> > www.ipv6actnow.org
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Further Information
>>>> > --------------------
>>>> >
>>>> > For more information on IPv4 exhaustion, please see:
>>>> > http://www.ripe.net/internet-coordination/ipv4-exhaustion
>>>> >
>>>> > For more information on how the RIPE NCC's last /8 will be
>>>> > distributed, please see:
>>>> > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-509
>>>> >
>>>> > For information about the amount of IPv4 address space left in the
>>>> > RIPE NCC's available pool of IPv4, please see the graph online at:
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.ripe.net/internet-coordination/ipv4-exhaustion/ipv4-available-pool-graph
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> >
>>>> > Axel Pawlik
>>>> >
>>>> > Managing Director
>>>> > RIPE NCC
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > --
>>>> > =========================
>>>> > Carlos M. Martinez-Cagnazzo
>>>> > http://www.labs.lacnic.net
>>>> > =========================
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