[LACNIC/Politicas] [lacnog] Fwd: APNIC Announces its IPv4 Address Pool Reaches Final /8

Christian O'Flaherty christian.oflaherty at gmail.com
Fri Apr 15 22:06:03 BRT 2011


On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Alejandro Acosta
<alejandroacostaalamo at gmail.com> wrote:
> Christian,
>  Otra consulta, ¿esta politica sería para todas las IP o solo el /8
> final?.

Mi propuesta es hacerla general. Para todas las IP que se asignen en
el futuro (Al menos para las IPv4)

> En base a esta respuesta tendría muchas otras inquietudes, por
> ejemplo que aprueben una politica similar en otro RIR (disculpen si
> existe y yo no la conozca) y pueda afectar a LATAM (ISPs, Enterprises,
> etc) como región usuaria de Internet.
>  Personalmente me agrada la politica solo para el /8 final.
>

No podremos evitar que se aprueben políticas similares en otros RIRs.
Además, la aprobación en otra región será independiente de lo que
hagamos nosotros.

Christian

> Saludos,
>
> Alejandro,
>
>
> 2011/4/15 Christian O'Flaherty <christian.oflaherty at gmail.com>:
>> Deberíamos tener una oración bien simple entre las políticas que diga
>> claramente que las direcciones IP que asigna Lacnic son para usarse en
>> nuestra región.
>> Enviaré una propuesta.
>>
>> Christian
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Nicolas Antoniello
>> <nantoniello at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> <chair hat = off>
>>>
>>> Todo es posible...
>>>
>>> Esa es una de las "alternativas" que en su momento algunos manejamos como
>>> mecanismos que van en favor de una corrida de solicitud de direcciones IPv4
>>> en nuestra región.
>>> Además, el hecho de que en nuestra región no sea necesario disponer de
>>> sistema autónomo (asignado por la propia LACNIC) para solicitar direcciones,
>>> hasta podría facilitar (aunque solo sea un poco) esa alternativa.
>>>
>>> Con esto no digo que sea bueno exigir AS para solicitar direcciones IP...
>>> sino que (en mi opinión) la ausencia podría simplificar la solicitud y el
>>> uso de las direcciones.
>>>
>>> La pregunta podría formularse de esta manera:
>>>
>>> - Con las políticas actuales, que impide que alguien que NO tenga Sistema
>>> Autónomo solicitado a LACNIC, haga un pedido de direcciones IP a LACNIC
>>> (porque tiene una parte de la empresa radicada en la region de LACNIC) y
>>> luego utilice esas direcciones publicándolas al mundo desde un AS de APNIC,
>>> RIPE, ARIN o AFRINIC ???
>>>
>>> Saludos,
>>> Nicolas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:02, Christian O'Flaherty
>>> <christian.oflaherty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Es posible que comiencen a radicarse empresas Asiaticas en Latam como
>>>> proveedores de servicio de Internet para conseguir direcciones IPv4 de
>>>> Lacnic? En algunos paises de nuestra región es muy simple radicar una
>>>> empresa para hacer eso.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo
>>>> <carlosm3011 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > FYI
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> > From: Axel Pawlik <no-reply at ripe.net>
>>>> > Date: Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 5:08 AM
>>>> > Subject: APNIC Announces its IPv4 Address Pool Reaches Final /8
>>>> > To: ncc-announce at ripe.net, ripe-list at ripe.net, ncc-services-wg at ripe.net
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > [Apologies for duplicate emails]
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Dear Colleagues,
>>>> >
>>>> > Today, Friday 15 April 2011, APNIC, the Regional Internet Registry
>>>> > (RIR) for the Asia Pacific region, announced that it has distributed
>>>> > the final IPv4 address space from its reserves of IPv4.
>>>> >
>>>> > This means that APNIC is now supplying IPv4 address space to its
>>>> > members from the last /8 it holds according to the guidelines in
>>>> > section 9.10 in "Policies for IPv4 address space management in the
>>>> > Asia Pacific region":
>>>> > http://www.apnic.net/policy/add-manage-policy
>>>> >
>>>> > This event does not affect the RIPE NCC's reserves of IPv4 address
>>>> > space and we will continue to distribute these resources to our
>>>> > members on the basis of need until we reach the last /8.
>>>> >
>>>> > According to RIPE Document ripe-509, section 5.6, once the RIPE NCC
>>>> > reaches the last /8 of IPv4 address space, each Local Internet
>>>> > Registry (LIR) can receive one /22 (1024 IPv4 addresses) upon
>>>> > application for IPv4 resources. In order to obtain this /22
>>>> > allocation, the LIR must already have an IPv6 allocation and have a
>>>> > demonstrated need for address space.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > IPv6 - Act Now
>>>> > ---------------
>>>> >
>>>> > The RIPE NCC cannot predict how long its own supply of IPv4 address
>>>> > space will last and has worked for several years to inform all
>>>> > stakeholders of the urgent need to deploy IPv6.
>>>> >
>>>> > It is now imperative that all stakeholders deploy IPv6 on their
>>>> > networks to ensure the continuity of their online operations and the
>>>> > long-term growth of the Internet.
>>>> >
>>>> > For more information on IPv6 and its deployment, advice from experts
>>>> > and where to get training, please see:
>>>> > www.ipv6actnow.org
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Further Information
>>>> > --------------------
>>>> >
>>>> > For more information on IPv4 exhaustion, please see:
>>>> > http://www.ripe.net/internet-coordination/ipv4-exhaustion
>>>> >
>>>> > For more information on how the RIPE NCC's last /8 will be
>>>> > distributed, please see:
>>>> > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-509
>>>> >
>>>> > For information about the amount of IPv4 address space left in the
>>>> > RIPE NCC's available pool of IPv4, please see the graph online at:
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.ripe.net/internet-coordination/ipv4-exhaustion/ipv4-available-pool-graph
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> >
>>>> > Axel Pawlik
>>>> >
>>>> > Managing Director
>>>> > RIPE NCC
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > --
>>>> > =========================
>>>> > Carlos M. Martinez-Cagnazzo
>>>> > http://www.labs.lacnic.net
>>>> > =========================
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