[lacnog] .ORG?

Carlos Vera cveraq en gmail.com
Jue Nov 28 12:21:31 -02 2019 

Official announcement by Isoc

https://www.internetsociety.org/news/press-releases/2019/ethos-capital-to-acquire-public-interest-registry-from-the-internet-society/

 Carlos Vera

> El 27 nov. 2019, a la(s) 22:49, Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani en gmail.com> escribió:
> 
> 
> Hi Alejandro. Sure they don't. The possible reading is that for the past 3 years the revenue has increased and stabilized. Another point to highlight is that it was just recently in May 2019 that ICANN removed the price caps from .org.
> 
> Anyway, these are the Board minutes from the meetings that approved the transaction https://www.internetsociety.org/board-of-trustees/minutes/
> 
> Fernando
> 
> On 27/11/2019 22:08, Alejandro Acosta wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>>   Looking to those numbers don't say much. Revenue is a terrific number
>> but more important is the profit or net income, with it should be "easy"
>> to estimate ROI in years. For a business of 50mm is hard to say what
>> investor want but probably they are looking for a return of investment
>> in 6-10 years.... .org does not sound as a risky business.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Alejandro,
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/27/19 4:37 PM, Fernando Frediani wrote:
>>> Actually just to complement, below are the figures of revenue from PIR
>>> from 2017, 2018 e 2019 budgets. So it doesn't seem to have any
>>> decrease or loss that could put in risk the organization to fulfill
>>> its mission based in this recent historic.
>>> 
>>> 2017 - USD 29.5 million
>>> 2018 - USD 34.6 million
>>> 2019 - USD 34.1 million
>>> 
>>> Therefore with lack of detailed information it remains difficult to
>>> understand the reasoning behind this deal. Perhaps they will come soon
>>> and this can be pacified.
>>> 
>>> Fernando
>>> 
>>> On 27/11/2019 17:03, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via LACNOG wrote:
>>>> El 27/11/19 20:16, "Fernando Gont" <fgont en si6networks.com> escribió:
>>>> 
>>>>      On 27/11/19 15:12, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via LACNOG wrote:
>>>>      > Hola Fernando,
>>>>      >
>>>>      > InternetPolicy <internetpolicy-bounces en elists.isoc.org>
>>>>      >
>>>>      > Creo que tienes que ser miembro de ISOC para poder acceder a
>>>> los archivos (aunque es gratis). Yo estoy siguiendo la discusión y de
>>>> momento no creo en las teorias conspiranoicas, entre otras cosas
>>>> porque conozco mucha gente del BoT y dudo mucho que se haya optado
>>>> por algo nefasto o negligente.
>>>>           No se quien tomo la decision en cuestión. En isoc creo que
>>>> esta todavia
>>>>      Gonzalo Camarillo, que hasta donde lo conozco es 20 puntos.
>>>>      -> Así es, sigue siendo el chair y por lo que le conozco, no me
>>>> podría creer que hubiera tomado una mala decisión.
>>>>           >
>>>>      > De todos modos, creo que es muy dificil juzgar si ha sido un
>>>> buen movimiento o malo, porque no sabemos la cantidad. Creo que se
>>>> habla de que al menos hayan pagado 50 millones de dolares, pero creo
>>>> que puede ser mucho mas.
>>>>      >
>>>>      > Creo que el resumen es "diversificación", no era bueno tener
>>>> todos los huevos en la misma cesta y con esta operación ISOC puede
>>>> invertir en muchas otras actividades que garantizen mejor la
>>>> estabilidad para ISOC y por ende, IETF.
>>>>           jaja.. bueno, traes un tema interesante. Porque ISOC parece
>>>> estar
>>>>      forrado en dinero. Da fortuna a IETF. Asi y todo IETF clama
>>>>      independencia. ISOC clama no intervenir... aunque elige al chair
>>>> del nomcom.
>>>>           E IETF sigue cobrando una fortuna por el fee, que los meros
>>>> morales, a
>>>>      quien en teoria nos ayuda isoc, debemos pagar de nuestro bolsillo.
>>>> 
>>>> -> no es tan fácil como lo cuentas ... el IETF ha pedido
>>>> "independencia" administrativa, pero bajo el paraguas de ISOC, porque
>>>> sigue siendo la mayor fuente de ingresos, y le da cobertura legal
>>>> como non-for-profit, y muchas mas implicaciones, no se si has seguido
>>>> el proceso de IASA 2.0.
>>>>                Hay algo bastante bizarro en todo esto....
>>>>           Respecto de la cuestion .ORG, no estudie el tema, por lo
>>>> cual no puedo
>>>>      hablar.
>>>>           --
>>>>      Fernando Gont
>>>>      SI6 Networks
>>>>      e-mail: fgont en si6networks.com
>>>>      PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492
>>>>                         
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